Am I the only one here who rates Sunil Gavaskar slightly above Viv Richards in Test?

[kyear2]

Some players have **** countries where they don’t succeed. Whether their tours there coincide with bad form or they end up with bad matchups or they just have bad luck. Also “lol sample size”. Blaming it all on umpires is just a pathetic crutch. Garner has an excellent record in New Zealand. Greenidge’s is also excellent.

Conversely, Garner was relatively crap against NZ at home, whereas Marshall destroyed them.

I didn't blame it all on umpires and I literally said I didn't have a reason.

But Viv, Marshall, Sobers, Lloyd, the three greatest WI players and our greatest captain all had abysmal records down there.

I referenced, injury, occuring after long Australian tours, sample size, all I said is there must be a reason.

 

[BazBall21]

Tendulkar wasn't given out LBW at home as often as he was overseas. For Lara, it's bang even.

 

[kyear2]

Pakistan should have won that series in 88

Not disputing that at all, just asking... How many decisions were questionable in that match?

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Tendulkar wasn't given out LBW at home as often as he was overseas. For Lara, it's bang even.

Wonder what @subshakerz and @OverratedSanity thinks of this.

 

[Coronis]

Batting or Bowling?

Both of course

I didn't blame it all on umpires and I literally said I didn't have a reason.

But Viv, Marshall, Sobers, Lloyd, the three greatest WI players and our greatest captain all had abysmal records down there.

I referenced, injury, occuring after long Australian tours, sample size, all I said is there must be a reason.

Mate you literally just quoted a post about umpires and said “there must be a reason”.

 

[kyear2]

Both of course



Mate you literally just quoted a post about umpires and said “there must be a reason”.

And literally said, didn't blame it all. I Assume there were multiple reasons, that contributed.

 

[honestbharani]

Lara was the batsman most sawn off by awful umpiring in all the cricket I have watched.

 

[kyear2]

Neutral umpires

They made their first appearance when a Pakistan captain invited two Indian umpires to stand in a Test against West Indies

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[number11]

The title describes itself..... I rate Gavaskar over Richards; not just because Gavaskar played for a much much weaker side, opened the innings and played more tests while still averaging more than Richards; but also as Richards never played against the best bowling unit of his era, against whom Gavaskar has ridiculous records (even barring his debut series, he still averages 54 in West Indies).

Yes. No one else is that detatched from reality.
I am sure I can guess your nationality/background based on this one post.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Neutral umpires

They made their first appearance when a Pakistan captain invited two Indian umpires to stand in a Test against West Indies

www.espncricinfo.com

Interesting

As a result, umpires became the most travelled members of the cricket community, and were no longer charged with partisanship. But the irony is this: home teams have fared better since the introduction of a neutral umpire, with a win-loss ratio of 1.57:1 compared to 1.43:1 before.

 

[shortpitched713]

Yes. No one else is that detatched from reality.
I am sure I can guess your nationality/background based on this one post.

I rate Gavaskar over Viv as well. Can you guess my nationality?

 

[shortpitched713]

Interesting

Countries are willing to go to extremes now in preparing pitches benefitting their home side.

In effect we've traded one for of home bias for another. But generally I think it's been a methodological step in the right direction.

 

[Coronis]

I rate Gavaskar over Viv as well. Can you guess my nationality?

I mean, it is in your profile.

Point made though @number11 people from varying nationalities rate Gavaskar over Viv - a poll would’ve been good on this thread.

 

[kyear2]

I rate Gavaskar over Viv as well. Can you guess my nationality?

To be fair, you also go out of your way to be contrarian.

 

[Burgey]

@Burgey has questions to answer.

Also how did you calculate it?

The answer to the question is obvious. Australian batsmen didn't get hit on the pads as often as their inferior competitors, who were undone by the blistering pace and late movement of our bowlers.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Gavaskar better than all others except Bradman.

Bradman
Gavaskar
Sobers
Sachin
Lara
Viv
Pollock
Hutton
Hobbs
Hammond / Headley

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Gavaskar better than all others except Bradman.

Bradman
Gavaskar
Sobers
Sachin
Lara
Viv
Pollock
Hutton
Hobbs
Hammond / Headley

Barry Richards should be somewhere in this list as well

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Barry Richards should be somewhere in this list as well

Excluding W. G

Bradman
Gavaskar
Sobers
Sachin
Lara
Viv
Pollock
Hutton
Hobbs
Hammond / Headley
Smith
Ranji
Trumper
B. Richards

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yes. No one else is that detatched from reality.
I am sure I can guess your nationality/background based on this one post.

Dude, you don't need to "guess" my nationality; it's in my profile...... And honestly, I feel like I pointed out enough points for my reasoning, so no more am I doing a rehearsal.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Will look up the 54 average, as he only faced Marshall in the Caribbean in '83. And in that 5 test series only had one score above 35 and that was in Georgetown. Holding he also faced in '76

He also faced Marshall in India; twice, in the first series he averaged around 90 and in the second he scored 3 centuries in 6 games including his best 236.... And in '83; he still managed to average 30, which honestly, is not good at all; but not horrible. As I pointed out, Richards average domestically is also less than 40; and he even never faced them together. Though you can argue that it was heavily due to his 147 in Georgetown.