A.F.L Thread

[Matt79]

Big ones i was thinking was Lockett and Crawford.

Wellman and Mal Michael a touch lucky i would've thought, tough task though.

Damn - I had Crawford - I knew there was someone I was missing. I had him on the envelope team, but I lost the envelope so was going from memory! I'd probably have him on the bench at the expense of West - though I hate doing so - West is very underrated IMO...

The alternative for Wellman that comes to mind immediately is Leppitch, and I went back and forth - Sean was pretty good though. Big Mal is pretty good though - aside from Fletcher (who's in) maybe Mick Martyn I can't think of others I'd consider ahead of him - maybe Scarlett? I'd love to have seen Mal on Lynch - that would have been huge!

 

[Matt79]

I'd be inclined to put McLeod in there if it's since 96, as he was consistently one of the best from around then until 2001-2002 or so. Certainly been a better player than someone like Clement.

Lockett ahead of Lloyd as well, for me.

Yep McLeod's an oversight as well - I knew there'd be lots. I'd put him in, maybe take out Brown as I wouldn't want to take out Clement or Aker. Clement's a champ - he plays on talls, smalls, always gets the best players that aren't monsters and always does well. He was one of my first picks.

the fact I barrack for the pies is purely irrelevant I assure you!

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Yeah, I don't think Brown really deserves his place. He's a good player of course, but he hasn't really achieved all that much in his career so far compared to the other guys in the team. Just a couple of good seasons, really, and a lot of injuries. Plus with Carey in the team, he's pretty redundant.

 

[benchmark00]

Well it depends what the list is based on. I would argue Riewoldt, Judd, Michael and Goodes all haven't done enough over the whole ten year period.

I wouldn't have Kouta in there, one of the more overrated, inconsistant players in the league for mine. At his best he's awesome, but normally he's just... normal.

 

[benchmark00]

Jakovich for Wellman also.

Haha it's easy for me to make comments like this but i understand how hard it wouldve been to make the side...

 

[pasag]

Salmon as ruck? Surly you would have Primus, White or Darcy before him plus Corey Makernen of 96.

I reckon you take half of Essondon 00-01 and Brisbane 02-04 and you would have the ultimate team of the last ten years.

 

[mikeW]

Great game by Richmond. I think they defintley have a bright future and are top 8 material. Essendon, whilst putting up a great fight seem, seem to be only death pangs With players like Solomon, Hird, Rioli and Fletcher are all on the way out, the future is not bright. Richmond on the other hand seem to be fast and hard. Full credit to them.

However, the game itself was exciting but horrible to watch, the skills were shocking and the amount of on the full kicks and full backs kicking back to the opposing forwards was really bad.

Richmond will make the top 8.

They'll be lucky to win 3 more games for the year, they are a bloody joke and so are anybody who loses to them (Richmond).

 

[Matt79]

So picking up on suggestions/oversights, I'd have:
B: Wanganeen - Mal Michaels - Dustin Fletcher
HB: McLeod - Jakovich - Clement
C: Riucutto - Buckley - Michael Voss
HF: Riewoldt - Carey - Koutafides
F: Hird - Lloyd - Phillip Matera
Foll: Salmon, Harvey
Rov: Cousins.
Interchange: Primus, Akermanis, Judd, Crawford

I didn't want it to necessarily reflect ten years of consistent brilliance, just the best players I've seen in the last ten years, but Judd and Goodes have both been pretty good for what 3 or 4 years respectively (although I swapped Goodes for Primus prior his knees totally disintegrating)

 

[benchmark00]

B: Archer - Silvagni - Dustin Fletcher
HB: Akermanis - Jakovich - McLeod
C: Peter Matera - Buckley - Michael Voss
HF: Long - Carey - Crawford
F: Ricciuto - Lockett - Lloyd
Foll: Salmon, Harvey
Rov: Hird.
Interchange: Rehn, Cousins, Burke, Scott West

Thats my team of the last ten years. I wouldve missed heaps... i'll edit when i think of them.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

What about Darren Jarman? He slipped my mind earlier, but he'd have to warrant consideration, even though a fair chunk of his career came before 96, when he played for the Hawks.

I might have him in the forward pocket, and move Ricciuto out to half forward for Long.

Good side though.

 

[benchmark00]

Yeah Jarman's got claims. I like Long though, maybe Jarman for Burke on the bench.

 

[Jono]

I was at the Richmond vs. Essendon game today with about 5-6 mates who support Essendon.

When Lucas went wild I thought I was in for an absolute whipping but how the tide turned. Oh how sweet that victory was, my heart was in the mouth when the ball was in Essendon's 50 that whole time with the scores level. How good was Bowden at the end to take on Lovett and clear the ball? Gutsy, but he always backs himself and that's what I love about him!

Oh and Dean Polo, what frickin' debut!

Almost lost my voice at the game, oh what a win!

 

[Jono]

They'll be lucky to win 3 more games for the year, they are a bloody joke and so are anybody who loses to them (Richmond).

Lol. You know who is a joke...

David Hille. Twice in two weeks he's missed goals from right in front that cost your team the match. Last week he kicks it out of bounds on the full in the frickin' goal square.

Just give the captaincy to McPhee and get over it, because Hille as captain is ridiculous.

And why you keep duds like Solomon and Camporeale in the team, really. Why don't you bring back Ty Zantuck while you're at it.

 

[benchmark00]

Solomon and Camporeale would walk into any AFL team. Calling them duds is an outrage, both have represented Australia.

 

[pasag]

Yeah I am still upset we lost Campo.

 

[Jono]

Solomon and Camporeale would walk into any AFL team. Calling them duds is an outrage, both have represented Australia.

Campo isn't the Campo of 1995-2000, that is quite clear. Why would you get him when they could have invested in youth, they've seen what Monfries, Stanton and Watson can do. They've got the experience of Hird and Jason Johnson in the centre, so experience isn't a good reason.

Solomon is a hard nut, but how often does he deliberately (and I mean deliberately) give away a free kick just to act hard. Sometimes the team cause is at stake.

Glad you didn't argue Zantuck though, one of the worst buys ever by the Bombers last year. Ever

By the way, Dale Morris has represented Australia too. Whilst its an honour, it doesn't elevate them to champion status.

 

[benchmark00]

I agree Solly can be stupidly undisciplined, but he has the ability.

On the Australian rep thing... they represented Australia when it meant something, i.e. When the team wasn't only picked on ability to play with the round ball.

 

[Jono]

Yeah I am still upset we lost Campo.

Any team would be if they lost someone who was one of the faces of the club. But I think it'll turn out for the better for Carlton. IMO Campo isn't what he used to be (not even close!), and why a club like Essendon with such great youth coming through (as I pointed out earlier Watson, Stanton and Monfries look the goods) that they'd waste their time with Campo. Rather than him being a dud, it was more a dud move.

Carlton were better off hanging on to Fev, Lappin and Whitnall. Much better off.

I agree Solly can be stupidly undisciplined, but he has the ability.

On the Australian rep thing... they represented Australia when it meant something, i.e. When the team wasn't only picked on ability to play with the round ball.

Fair call.

 

[Jono]

Oh and is Nathan Lovett-Murray the most improved player in the league this year? I reckon he's pretty damn close. 'The Gorilla' is in prime form, and I reckon he's a better player than Andrew Lovett, but gets so much less attention simply because Lovett is more flamboyant. Not that Lovett isn't a good player, but I reckon Lovett-Murray is just reaching levels no one thought he'd reach so soon.

I do dislike Lovett though, whereas Lovett-Murray is easily my favourite Essendon player. Easily. Gotta love The Gorilla.

 

[benchmark00]

Oh and is Nathan Lovett-Murray the most improved player in the league this year? I reckon he's pretty damn close. 'The Gorilla' is in prime form, and I reckon he's a better player than Andrew Lovett, but gets so much less attention simply because Lovett is more flamboyant. Not that Lovett isn't a good player, but I reckon Lovett-Murray is just reaching levels no one thought he'd reach so soon.

I do dislike Lovett though, whereas Lovett-Murray is easily my favourite Essendon player. Easily. Gotta love The Gorilla.

What'd you think of Jobe Watson's game? By all reports he played well.

He'd be in contention with the most improved award also.