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**2007 World Cup**
- Thread starter Natman20
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GladiatrsInBlue
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Well going by the result of last years WC, i don't have much hope for Pakistan, even though as asians and my neighbours they have my fullest support 
One interesting match would be the battle of minnows, Bangladesh vs Pakistan, i wonder who would end up victorious, Bangladesh might start as fav's coz of their better record against Pakistan.
My lineup for semis would be,
1Eng
2 India
3Aus
4 SA
One interesting match would be the battle of minnows, Bangladesh vs Pakistan, i wonder who would end up victorious, Bangladesh might start as fav's coz of their better record against Pakistan.
My lineup for semis would be,
1Eng
2 India
3Aus
4 SA
# 1 England and # 2 IndiaGladiatrsInBlue said:Well going by the result of last years WC, i don't have much hope for Pakistan, even though as asians and my neighbours they have my fullest support
One interesting match would be the battle of minnows, Bangladesh vs Pakistan, i wonder who would end up victorious, Bangladesh might start as fav's coz of their better record against Pakistan.
My lineup for semis would be,
1Eng
2 India
3Aus
4 SA
....u sure u talking abt ODI's? it seems somewhat like test standing...below aussies , but noway in ODI's...They both suck when it comes to ODIz, thy do win on their days, but in long-run..no hope. Hard to replace any of the following teams on their current & long-run form for WC favourites1. Aus
2. Pak
3. RSA
4. SL
and rest are somewhat equal excluding BD & Zimb.
cric_manic
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Yea Ryder shud be our opener in the world cup.Natman20 said:
Theres also Jeetan Patel as another spinner
And some more posibilities for the NZ squad are Ross Taylor and Greame Aldridge
Scaly piscine
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I'm sticking with what I've said before: Australia, England and WI are the main contenders. WI are a bit more of a dark horse, but they've got the sort of genius players that could produce something special against anyone even tho they're more of a rabble than a team. I also think they're less likely to wilt under the extra pressure of a World Cup, sure they could go out in the super 8s but they still have a decent chance of winning. With the likelihood of England and Australia continuing to almost dominate Test cricket they'll have that edge in the World Cup even tho it's ODIs instead of Tests and the likes of SA and India will probably crumble in the face of it (India crumble against anyone at the moment in finals anyway). If NZ have Bond for the World Cup that'll probably give them some belief and they'd still have a distant chance of winning, if he's injured they've virtually no chance. SL just aren't good enough in WI conditions. With Pakistan it depends a lot on how much progress they make under their newish coach, but I don't think they'll be particularly suited towards WI conditions.
aussie
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1. Dont see why Australia will go back to Harvey but i reckon Australia will have a stable enoguh bowling attack for the world cup.whitedazzler said:
2. Gilo isn't great but he does a good job for England & i cant see him not playing in the world cup, Tres wont keep, tudor i cant see coming into the ODI side even if fit again but if Blackwell continues good form in domestic ODI cricket he could make the england team again.
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australia - they need a stable bowling lineup. there batting seems pretty sorted with the emergance of hussey recently but there bowling unit seems to change to often. mcgrath and lee are certainties but the other two positions are still up for grabs my picks wud b hogg and recall harvey.
Give one good reason to go back to Harvey
bangladesh - no chance but may cause upsets that could be cruicial for later on in the world cup. players such as n hussain, mortaza, ahmed, ashraful, bashar, haq junior and rafique (if he hans't retired yet) may show the youngsters in the team what international cricket is all about. as long as the team stays mainly the same they could be a force for 2011
I find it amusing that you have three kids in that bunch. And last I checked, N Hussain was a) English and b) retired
england - they also need a stable bowling lineup. the batting looks to be settled but id image they could end up having problems in there middle to lower order. bowlers wise gough needs to go and so does giles becuz he isn't a very gud odi player unless the over the wicket to the right handers leg stump tactic is employed. so i wud choose anderson, tudor (if fit) and possibly ian blackwell to partner harmison in the attack. i would also consider dropping the keeper jones for an extra batsmen and giving trescothick the gloves.
When you said "Tudor" you lost all credibility. And Blackwell partnering anyone will only scare the caterers. Plus Trescothick is not a wicketkeeper.
india - as long as everyone is fit and the captain and coach are getting along they seem to have the right mixture. The only thing they really need is a quality allrounder i think yadav has the ability but it might take a while to come out though the world cup is 2 years away so i suppose there is hope. there batting is tremendous with kaif and yuvraj performing to add to the likes to tendulkar, ganguly, dravid and laxman. i think dhoni could win matches for india with his style and the batting position he comes in. no problems with bowling cud maybe use and extra pace bowler though they may want to develop another spinner.
They need to start by getting some seamers
nz (my team) - ok new zealand mainly need to stay injury free and they will do well. they need to establish a set bowling lineup and give the spinner patel more game time. theyve got the allround capibility with players like cairns, oram and styris but its wether they perform on the day. with bond opening the bowling its a major advantage but the bowler opening with him has not been settled yet though i feel tuffey will get the job. managing players will also be a key in new zealands preperation with guys like andre adams, craig mcmillan, paul hitchcock, ian butler, jesse ryder and ross taylor all capable of winning games by themselves but otherwise they play less than average. but i feel the main issue that will seperate wether new zealand wins the world cup or not will be bowling at the death of the innings as they have been made to look less than ordinary by other sides.
What's Patel got to offer? I feel you're over-rating Hitchcock, Butler, Ryder and Taylor, too...
pakistan - no question pakistan can beat anyone on there day with absolute brilliance as they showed in india but anyone that follows cricket will know they can be absolute pathetic. with players such as younis khan, inzy, razzaq, afridi, malik, akhtar and sami these guys can turn a game by themselves but the key for pakistan will be playing as a team rather then 11 individuals and improving there fielding is a must
Let's face it, they aren't likely to fire for every single game that matters, are they. A good each-way shout but no more for me
rsa - south africa have consistantly been a class outfit in the one day arena known for its superb allrounders such as kallis and pollock and excellent fielders such as gibbs. the only falldown that south africa could have is the middle order batsmen at 5 and 6 as well as the 3rd fast bowler but it seems but looking at recent results that langevelt has taken that position and sealed it. though until the world cup they may want to blood another spinner to partner boje such as petersen, henderson or adams.
Can someone please explain why playing two below average spinners in the West Indies will do anything except create another amusing exit
sri - the key for any side in beating sri lanka is handling vaas, muralitharan, atapattu and jayasuriya which has been effective. though with players such as malinga, dilshan, samaweera sri lanka could pose a threat though if the pitches end up being hard and fast then the have no chance unless they can bring in sum quality pace bowlers and possibly a batsmen that can bowl a bit of medium pace. like pakistan improving there fielding is a must
No, the key to beating Sri Lanka is to play them somewhere that isn't Sri Lanka.
wi - they will not have a chance even at home unless the contract dispute is settled. one the basis that it is then its looking promising for them. i say that because when they get their laras etc back they players such as xavier marshall who is no where near up to international level yet will have the international expeirence and provide good backup. pace and spin specalist bowlers are needed if they are to have a glimmer of hope. they have lawson who seems promising when the icc's chucking committee is of his case but im nt sure wether guys like franklyn rose or mervyn dillon are still playing but if so they need to be brought back in2 the team for expeirence alone.
Unlikely, but look what happened in the Champions Trophy
Give one good reason to go back to Harvey
bangladesh - no chance but may cause upsets that could be cruicial for later on in the world cup. players such as n hussain, mortaza, ahmed, ashraful, bashar, haq junior and rafique (if he hans't retired yet) may show the youngsters in the team what international cricket is all about. as long as the team stays mainly the same they could be a force for 2011
I find it amusing that you have three kids in that bunch. And last I checked, N Hussain was a) English and b) retired
england - they also need a stable bowling lineup. the batting looks to be settled but id image they could end up having problems in there middle to lower order. bowlers wise gough needs to go and so does giles becuz he isn't a very gud odi player unless the over the wicket to the right handers leg stump tactic is employed. so i wud choose anderson, tudor (if fit) and possibly ian blackwell to partner harmison in the attack. i would also consider dropping the keeper jones for an extra batsmen and giving trescothick the gloves.
When you said "Tudor" you lost all credibility. And Blackwell partnering anyone will only scare the caterers. Plus Trescothick is not a wicketkeeper.
india - as long as everyone is fit and the captain and coach are getting along they seem to have the right mixture. The only thing they really need is a quality allrounder i think yadav has the ability but it might take a while to come out though the world cup is 2 years away so i suppose there is hope. there batting is tremendous with kaif and yuvraj performing to add to the likes to tendulkar, ganguly, dravid and laxman. i think dhoni could win matches for india with his style and the batting position he comes in. no problems with bowling cud maybe use and extra pace bowler though they may want to develop another spinner.
They need to start by getting some seamers
nz (my team) - ok new zealand mainly need to stay injury free and they will do well. they need to establish a set bowling lineup and give the spinner patel more game time. theyve got the allround capibility with players like cairns, oram and styris but its wether they perform on the day. with bond opening the bowling its a major advantage but the bowler opening with him has not been settled yet though i feel tuffey will get the job. managing players will also be a key in new zealands preperation with guys like andre adams, craig mcmillan, paul hitchcock, ian butler, jesse ryder and ross taylor all capable of winning games by themselves but otherwise they play less than average. but i feel the main issue that will seperate wether new zealand wins the world cup or not will be bowling at the death of the innings as they have been made to look less than ordinary by other sides.
What's Patel got to offer? I feel you're over-rating Hitchcock, Butler, Ryder and Taylor, too...
pakistan - no question pakistan can beat anyone on there day with absolute brilliance as they showed in india but anyone that follows cricket will know they can be absolute pathetic. with players such as younis khan, inzy, razzaq, afridi, malik, akhtar and sami these guys can turn a game by themselves but the key for pakistan will be playing as a team rather then 11 individuals and improving there fielding is a must
Let's face it, they aren't likely to fire for every single game that matters, are they. A good each-way shout but no more for me
rsa - south africa have consistantly been a class outfit in the one day arena known for its superb allrounders such as kallis and pollock and excellent fielders such as gibbs. the only falldown that south africa could have is the middle order batsmen at 5 and 6 as well as the 3rd fast bowler but it seems but looking at recent results that langevelt has taken that position and sealed it. though until the world cup they may want to blood another spinner to partner boje such as petersen, henderson or adams.
Can someone please explain why playing two below average spinners in the West Indies will do anything except create another amusing exit
sri - the key for any side in beating sri lanka is handling vaas, muralitharan, atapattu and jayasuriya which has been effective. though with players such as malinga, dilshan, samaweera sri lanka could pose a threat though if the pitches end up being hard and fast then the have no chance unless they can bring in sum quality pace bowlers and possibly a batsmen that can bowl a bit of medium pace. like pakistan improving there fielding is a must
No, the key to beating Sri Lanka is to play them somewhere that isn't Sri Lanka.
wi - they will not have a chance even at home unless the contract dispute is settled. one the basis that it is then its looking promising for them. i say that because when they get their laras etc back they players such as xavier marshall who is no where near up to international level yet will have the international expeirence and provide good backup. pace and spin specalist bowlers are needed if they are to have a glimmer of hope. they have lawson who seems promising when the icc's chucking committee is of his case but im nt sure wether guys like franklyn rose or mervyn dillon are still playing but if so they need to be brought back in2 the team for expeirence alone.
Unlikely, but look what happened in the Champions Trophy
Blaze
Banned
Hitchcock is terrible. Will never get close to the NZ side ever again. He struggles to gain selection for Auckland. I struggle to see how he is a match winner.
Patel does have something to offer Neil. He bowls very well at the death and will be in the WC squad as the back up spinner to Vettori. Won't make the final XI though.
Taylor is a hard hitting samoan boy who had a bad season last year but could very well find himself in the Black Caps before the WC if he gets some runs under his belt. Quite similar to Kevin Pieterson.
Ryder will definetly be in the WC squad. Very good prospect.
Butler has been poorly treated by NZ cricket, has potential. He has been over in England getting coaching from the guy who coached Steve Harmisson or something I think. Certainly isn't a match winner at this stage of his career.
Patel does have something to offer Neil. He bowls very well at the death and will be in the WC squad as the back up spinner to Vettori. Won't make the final XI though.
Taylor is a hard hitting samoan boy who had a bad season last year but could very well find himself in the Black Caps before the WC if he gets some runs under his belt. Quite similar to Kevin Pieterson.
Ryder will definetly be in the WC squad. Very good prospect.
Butler has been poorly treated by NZ cricket, has potential. He has been over in England getting coaching from the guy who coached Steve Harmisson or something I think. Certainly isn't a match winner at this stage of his career.
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My point was that I don't see any of them graduating to much more than Ian Blackwell level by WC07 - i.e. may win you one game in ten, but will do naff all else.Blaze said:
superkingdave
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i think he meant Nazmul Hossain
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Shh. It's funnier this way! Even so, Nazmul's barely anything more than a kid himself.superkingdave said:
GladiatrsInBlue
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Engand has the bowling to win WC, to say that they suxs in OD is criminal.venomous said:# 1 England and # 2 India
1. Aus
2. Pak
3. RSA
4. SL
and rest are somewhat equal excluding BD & Zimb.
India has indeed performed poorly recently in Onedayers but that is mstly because the team hasn't setteled yet (as they are trying different combinations) and also because of poor leadership of Ganguly.AS soon as these things get sorted out India will be right at top.
Pak has not achieved much by winning some matches on dusty sub-continental pitches.THe WI pitches won't suit Pak much and i doubt if they will ever make it to Semis.
SL... Outside Sub-continent they cannot do much!
MY 4 still are
1Eng
2Ind
3Aus
4SA