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    Top Ten ODI cricketers of All Time

    Jones was brilliant one day batsman in his own right. but when best ten is selected some apparently brilliant players gets omitted. Jones is one of them
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    Top Ten ODI cricketers of All Time

    I base longevity not on 'years' but on the 'no: of matches. Ambrose played 176 to Hadlee's 115. I admit Hadlee has slightly better econ: & avg: when compared to Ambrose. But Hadlee started from 1973 onwards when one day cricket was played at snail like pace of test cricket(when the likes of...
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    Top Ten ODI cricketers of All Time

    an attack comprising of GOAT spinner( he was fit enough to be in the eleven) in spinning conditions, another border line ATG one day bowler Damien Fleming(check his records) - a four man attack comprising of these 2 bowlers is a great bowling attack in my book. You won't always get...
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    Top Ten ODI cricketers of All Time

    Kohli is better in chasing & finishing mammoth scores. In other words that implies bowling qlty is 'poor' to 'good' at the very best. This doesn't mean Kohli has better technique than Sachin to face deliveries of great bowlers ball after ball and chase down a target in general.This is...
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    Top Ten ODI cricketers of All Time

    by chasing it doesn't necessarily mean finishing off too. because that is dependent on other paramaters too.For instance Sachin was mainly an opener. It is only of sense to assume that it is more difficult for openers to finish off chases than middle order batsmen.I meant in general Sachin was...
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    Top Ten ODI cricketers of All Time

    infact i meant Hadlee deserved extra points for being an one man band, yet Ambrose was better for me.
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    Top Ten ODI cricketers of All Time

    Some reasons i omitted some players . 1. ABDV - i think he is still not better than Sachin. Because Sachin played much calibre bowlers on the avg:, had much longevity , had to with stand immense pressure, played in much tougher bowling conditions & much bowler friendly rules, good-great...
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    Top Ten ODI cricketers of All Time

    My choices 1. Viv Richards -GOAT batsman & a useful bowler 2. Sachin Tendulkar - 2nd GOAT & a useful bowler 3 . Lance Klusener - best allrounder 4 .Kapil Dev - 2nd best allrounder 4. Curtley Ambrose - GOAT bowler 6 MS Dhoni - best wkt keeper batsman & a top finisher 7. Michael Bevan -...
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    Shakib Al Hasan vs The Great All Rounders

    firstly you have to specify the reasons for your conclusion.Broad's avg: is 28.54 & Holding's is 23.68 .A difference of almost 5 in Holding's favour. If you said Broad is only 23.68/28.54 = 82.97% a bowler as that of Holding, then i would assume that you are most senseless w.r.t cricket...
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    Shakib Al Hasan vs The Great All Rounders

    The real hypocrites are those who take just avg:s to measure the greatness of players with out taking into account the context these players played in.For them Hashim Amla will simply be a better one day batsman than some one like Desmond Haynes because Amla avg;s 51+ when compared to...
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    Shakib Al Hasan vs The Great All Rounders

    i think you mean one dayers only .i am not saying Lara is a better player when compared to Kohli in one dayers just because Lara faced much superior attacks.I only says that mere avg: cannot just be taken as the yardstick.there are several other factors too to be taken into account
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    Shakib Al Hasan vs The Great All Rounders

    definitely ..Shakib has always been a quality all rounder.. now that he is adding longevity to it he makes his claims even more stronger to get compared with other legendary all rounders. Avg:ing substantially doesn't mean 'being better by' that much.It depends on contexts too. For example...
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    Shakib Al Hasan vs The Great All Rounders

    i suppose you didn't watch Kapil's career. I have went a lot thru Kapil's scorecards.He played each and every one of these bowlers. Kapil has several brilliant knocks against several of these bowers faced .And he has failed against some of these too.
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    Shakib Al Hasan vs The Great All Rounders

    Of these bowlers how many avg; <25 ? Only Murali,Steyn & Philander. Isn't it? Ashwin has yet to play a lot in difficult countries & i am sure his avg: will difenitely go a lot outside 25 in the end. Kapil faced bowlers not only with <25 avg: , there were several of these in low 20:s like...
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    Shakib Al Hasan vs The Great All Rounders

    yeah add Underwood,S.Clarke,Murali,Warne & Bishop, ..... i think there were atleast 20 <25 avg: bowlers that Kapil faced. i will take that 31.05@ 81 str:rate any time over 41 vs a bunch of mediocre bowlers.
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    Shakib Al Hasan vs The Great All Rounders

    yeah ,,, you can play against a bunch of lower primary school kids and score 100s at will and avg; 50+ easily .Then that too must be taken for comparison with out even giving a bit for the qlty: of bowling. Kapil faced the likes of...
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    Shakib Al Hasan vs The Great All Rounders

    i think people who compares Shakib with Kapil of late do so by just looking at their bat avg:s . But they must not forget these things. Shakib's bat avg: is in about 85 inns in almost 10 years. Kapil's is in about 185 inns in just 15.5 years.More over Shakib is yet to play in AUS & IND. Kapil...
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    Shakib Al Hasan vs The Great All Rounders

    Don't get overwhelmed by stats alone. Kapil avg:ed 31.05 with the bat after withstanding some 20 <25 avg: bowlers and after playing 131 tests in a span of less than 16 years.And he had a str; of almost 81. Shakib as of now has faced only Steyn & Murali. i would credit Shakib a lot more in...
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    The sporting careers of non-famous siblings of famous cricketers

    Saurav Ganguly's elder brother Snehashish played first classcricket for their state Bengal
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    The Great Captains

    when we talk about those 3 WI series , we need to remember a few more things.Firstly only Marshall among the fab 4 remained 'non retired' for those series.Walsh who debuted in 85 0r 86 was there though.Others were debutants Ambrose & Bishop. Similarly in the batting too, WI was going thru a...
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