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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    It ... was ... a ... joke.
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    Marshall was fantastic against top-quality batsmen but he had one serious weakness: he struggled against mediocre batsmen. That's why he did poorly against New Zealand in New Zealand: And it's why he did badly against Sri Lanka in ODIs: He was a nice person so he did not want to humiliate...
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    I had to look it up but the following quote sort of applies here: Lao Tzu: "The candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long."
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    I'm a huge Hadlee fan (he was one of my sports heroes growing up) but to be fair, Marshall's total bowling workload was greater than Hadlee's: Marshall: Hadlee: 10.6% more first-class deliveries and 38.0% more List A deliveries while bowling at a greater pace. 96,977 vs. 83,706 total...
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    Hadlee has a stupendous bowling record in test wins: That's better than anybody else in test cricket history with 100 or more wickets in wins. And he did it over 16 years (longer than Marshall's (12 years eight months) and McGrath's (13 years two months) entire test careers). I concede that...
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    Is there a difference between a flat wicket and a dead wicket? I've always taken them to mean the same thing because when a person is dead, medical monitoring equipment shows a flat line.
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    No, I was just taking the mickey. Marshall was possibly (probably?) the best bowler on a dead wicket that there's ever been (although Hadlee could bowl well on them, even superbly at times). Hadlee got lucky in the Rajkot game with a ball that swung and with other bowlers not as likely to take...
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    I'm not going to mention how Marshall completely outshone Hadlee, Imran and others during the 1987 MCC Bicentenary match on a dead wicket because that wouldn't fit into my agenda but the truth is, Marshall wasn't a bad bowler either.
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    Marshall's best bowling in an innings in first-class cricket was 8-71. When Hadlee toured India in 1988, his first tour game was against West Zone at Rajkot. In his only bowling innings there, Hadlee took 9-55 on a flat wicket. That's right, folks, crippled-up, broken-down, clapped-out...
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    I never said they did. It was the only information I could find about him against SL. I then mentioned how Hadlee did against SL in ODIs as a common point of reference. BTW, go to the very first post of this thread. It doesn't mention about confining the discussion to tests.
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    Hadlee's first tour to India in 1976, two years before he joined Notts: Marshall's first tour to India in 1978, one year before he joined Hampshire: Hadlee did much better.
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    This is how Hadlee performed against SL in 15 ODIs from 1979 to 1988:
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    This is how Marshall performed against SL in six ODIs in 1985 and 1986:
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    It's now 6-27. Three more idiots and 25 more geniuses need to vote to make my prediction come true.
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    Marshall vs Hadlee (overall cricketers)

    I see that the current voting stands at 6-26 in favour of Hadlee which is what he took against England in 1978. Based on this, I think that the final tally in favour of Hadlee will be 9-52.
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    Imran Khan vs Richard Hadlee

    Marshall was much more blasé than Hadlee. I even saw him bat one-handed once!
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    Imran Khan vs Richard Hadlee

    Only 100 cricketers but better than nothing!
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    Imran Khan vs Richard Hadlee

    OK, Google "ACS cricket archive famous cricketers" and then click on the Archive of ACS Famous Cricketers Books link to get the full list!
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    Imran Khan vs Richard Hadlee

    Google "ACS cricket archive [player's name]" (without the quote marks) then click on the Famous Cricketers link. You will need to dig into the e-book that comes up to find what I did (p. 74 for Marshall and p. 90 and 91 for Hadlee (the two pages for Hadlee offer different perspectives)). I...
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    Imran Khan vs Richard Hadlee

    from the ACS cricket archive (was not allowed to post the links): Marshall's stats for Hampshire: 210 matches 5847 runs at 25.20, 5 100s, 26 50s, 76 catches 826 wickets at 18.64, 45 5WI, 7 10WM Hadlee's stats for Notts: 148 matches 5854 runs at 38.76, 11 100s, 29 50s, 105 catches 622 wickets...

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