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    Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

    You sound so bitter man because the pundits didn't give Marshall the same treatment. I am telling you, pundits generally like trailblazers not more of the same. Marshall was a fine bowler but he wasn't that.
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    Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

    I think you might have a comprehension issue. I never said I am wedded to the exact pundit rankings. I think when it comes to measuring greatness, they give credit to what these cricketers have contributed to the game, which is a good thing to include, but often overlook career record flaws or...
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    Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

    A relatively underwhelming away record compared to the other top tiers. Averages less than 50 overall away. Fewer good/great series in most countries than other top tier bats. Generally poor returns against the top class pacers (Donald, Wasim/Waqar, McGrath, Bond, Eng Ashes quartet) in the...
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    Steve Smith VS Jacques Kallis

    So he should be rated as a supporting act.
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    Is there a difference between a greater cricketer and a better cricketer?

    But it's not really a point. You are making a qualitative assessment of someone by saying better the same way you are doing with greater, but with Bumrah you have incomplete data to make that statement.
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    Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

    I think it's fair to say that Imran might be closer to Sobers than these pundits think. I don't think there should be a debate that Imran is behind Sobers though.
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    Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

    No Lara like Warne has flaws in his record that the pundits overlook too so gets downgraded.
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    Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

    Yet they gave Ambrose a knighthood lol. And like I said, if you take a poll of WI cricketers, you would likely see Lara and Viv rated ahead of Marshall.
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    McGrath vs Hadlee

    Hadlee has too much of his career focused around NZ, Aus and Eng. McGrath is more spread out across countries, in a tougher era and over a longer career sample.
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    Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

    Nah you confused it further.
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    Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

    Nah I think it might be true for Benaud who was quite biased not even shortlisting one WI for his pacers for his ATG XI, but I don't think that accounts for the entire English press and global South cricketers and his own teammates not rating Marshall as high as a cricketer. Btw Benaud despite...
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    Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

    Warne is overrated because flaws in his record are overlooked. Not so with Tendulkar. Yes let's disengage but I hope you appreciate the difference between better and greater.
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    Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

    You are going into the weeds, my friend. Nobody denies that WI was already an ATG team before Marshall became a permanent fixture. Yes, 200 tests and a ridiculously long stretch of world-class performance are Tendulkar hallmarks that make him special. But also the other factors I mentioned...
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    Shane Warne vs Sachin Tendulkar

    ABD was a safe keeper too.
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    Who is the most intelligent bowler of all time?

    I get that. I associate that level of bowling intelligence with most great pacers.
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    Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

    Marshall didn't though. It was already the no.1 team when he came into the side as main bowler. And folks associate WIs rise more with Lloyd, Viv and the original quartet. I think you are deliberately evading my point. Marshall was technically the best. But didn't add anything new to the game...
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    Shane Warne vs Sachin Tendulkar

    He wasn't a worldclass keeper like Gilly though.
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    Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

    Nothing groundbreaking there. Not by just being normal great fast bowlers. Cricket consensus has him as the best fast bowler of his era. But that doesn't equal greatness for a top 3 slot.
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    Shane Warne vs Sachin Tendulkar

    I don't It isn't close as in it's an easy decision. Tendulkar is no.3 greatest cricketer while Warne barely makes my top 10.
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    Who is the most intelligent bowler of all time?

    Nah. Pakistani bats were capable of being spastic against Warne.

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