Aus xi vs WI xi vs SA xi (since 1970)

[Sliferxxxx]

The biggest advantage for west indies team is their fast bowlers. Marshall, Ambrose, Holding and Garner can pretty much bowl out any opposition.

And fast bowlers who each have a very good records vs Australia. And Garner, Holding and Ambrose in particular did well vs strong Aussie batting.

 

[DrWolverine]

where's the match

Hopefully not in India for the Australian team

Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Smith
Chappell
Border
Gilchrist
Warne
Cummins
Lillee
McGrath

Langer averages 29 in India.
Ponting averages 26 in India.
Chappell never played in India.
Gilchrist averages 28 in India.
Warne averages 43 in India.
Lille never played in India.
Cummins averages 32 in India.

McGrath has a good overall record in India.
But took 0 5-Fer in 8 Tests in India.
And he took 1 5-Fer in 19 Tests in Asia.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

This bowling lineup cannot defeat the WestIndies team in Asian pitches especially Indian pitches.

Warne : Averages 43 in India.

McGrath : Good overall record. Zero 5-Fer in 8 Tests in India and 1 5-Fer in 19 Tests in Asia.

Lillie : Never played in India. Took just 6 wickets in 4 Tests in Pak & SL.

Cummins : Averages 30 in 9 Tests in Asia with 1 5-Fer.

Why will they play in Asia/India?

 

[DrWolverine]

Neutral venue

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Who would win on fast bouncy pitches?

 

[DrWolverine]

Who would win on fast bouncy pitches?

WI for me
Their bowling is just too damn strong
Marshall. Ambrose. Holding. Garner.
It is like the perfect combination of fire and ice.
On pretty much any pitch they will destroy the batting
Two of them can take the pitch out of the equation

 

[Johan]

WI for me
Their bowling is just too damn strong
Marshall. Ambrose. Holding. Garner.
It is like the perfect combination of fire and ice.
On pretty much any pitch they will destroy the batting
Two of them can take the pitch out of the equation

two?

 

[DrWolverine]

two?

Marshall & Holding
I love Ambrose & Garner but they are unproven
Not sure how they would have done in India pitches

 

[DrWolverine]

@Johan Surprised you have not voted yet

 

[Johan]

@Johan Surprised you have not voted yet

done

 

[DrWolverine]

done

Did the birthday boy make you vote for WI?

 

[Johan]

Did the birthday boy make you vote for WI?

Yes.

 

[The Sean]

Hopefully not in India for the Australian team

Langer averages 29 in India.
Ponting averages 26 in India.
Chappell never played in India.
Gilchrist averages 28 in India.
Warne averages 43 in India.
Lille never played in India.
Cummins averages 32 in India.

What about if they played it in New Zealand? Where:

Richards averages 19
Lara averages 36
Lloyd averages 15
Sobers averages 15/38
Marshall averages 32
Holding averages 47

 

[The Sean]

Notwithstanding the obvious point that in either of those venues they'd be playing each other, rather than the home batsmen and bowlers they struggled against.

 

[DrWolverine]

What about if they played it in New Zealand? Where:

Richards averages 19
Lara averages 36
Lloyd averages 15
Sobers averages 15/38
Marshall averages 32
Holding averages 47

Garner averages 16
Ambrose averages 22
So I guess it’s okay

 

[Coronis]

Garner averages 16
Ambrose averages 22
So I guess it’s okay

Almost like how Border averages 51 in India and McGrath averages 21.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Almost like how Border averages 51 in India and McGrath averages 21.

Abd Hayden close to 60, and Steve Smith.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Guys if atg teams play each other it has to be home and away.

 

[reyrey]

I really think these ATG Xl should always include a 12th man.

If the ATG XI favours pace then a spinner is the 12th man. If it favours Spin then 12th man is a pacer.

If the XI is perfectly balanced then 12th man can be an all rounder.

 

[subshakerz]

I really think these ATG Xl should always include a 12th man.

If the ATG XI favours pace then a spinner is the 12th man. If it favours Spin then 12th man is a pacer.

If the XI is perfectly balanced then 12th man can be an all rounder.

I think that is fair.

Some suggested 12th men:
Aus: Miller or third bowler like Cummins/O'Reilly
WI: Gibbs or Garner
SA: Faulkner or Procter
India: Mankad or Jadeja
Pak: Shoaib or Fazal Mahmood if Mushtaq Mohd selected already
Bang and SL: No idea
England: Botham or Bedser