Even BD won in NZ in today’s era and WI won a test in Australia and Pakistan. That should not take away the reality of actual output of these teams.
Zimbabwe was a constant threat in the 90s, and neither Bang nor WI are minnows. Ireland is.
Missing mid-50s NZ (or more broadly pre-1960s NZ whenever they didn't have Cowie).
A constant threat that won what? 3 games and lost 19?? With a WL ratio of 0.15, they were still minnows. Andy Flower was the only constant threat and he barely played tests vs Australia. It is no feat performing against Zim of 1990s.
Avg of 28.6 with 150 away wickets suggests that Waqar was a huge beneficiary of reverse swing he got in Pakistan during his prime between 1990-1994.
I removed BD/Zim from Starc/Shami.
HIghlighting main point out in posts. If distracting, I will leave that out.
Even though our bowling was bad, we did very well at home.
That does not make them non-minnows. Zim had 3 test win in entire 90s. There is no equivalence between India/NZ and Zim of 90s as a team.Bowling records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com
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90s Zimbabwe bowling output is around NZ level, and on par with India of 2000s
And that mean thye were not minnows? Zim had W/L of 0.1 with 3 test wins in 90s. That's minnow.
Imran and Waqar are qualitatively much different as bowlers. Waqar was not nearly as great as Imran.
What years are you using?
It's always hard to compare across era. That's why we look at away record of players relative to peer goup as well and not just raw stats. A large number of players did very well away from home against non-minnows during Waqar's career and avg sub 25. On other hands, pacers are not finding it easy to avg sub 25 away in the last 15 years when Starc and Shami have played. Only one pacer has avg sub 25 away during Starc's career so we can't say that he had it easier time.
I think that's not really adding much when talking about Waqar
I took 1994 as cut off date when it was adopted.
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Pakistan had neutral umpires since 86 I already told you when Imran forced them. He didn't lose that series or in 89.I think that's not really adding much when talking about Waqar
I took 1994 as cut off date when it was adopted.
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One neutral umpire per Test was appointed on an experimental basis in 1992, and the system was adopted two years later.
Neutral umpires
They made their first appearance when a Pakistan captain invited two Indian umpires to stand in a Test against West Indies
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No other team has drastic change ONLY in home result like Pakistan . Pakistan did not have change in away record at all. Teams do decline and it will have impact on home and away both.
Pakistan had many good players in that period with Wasim, Waqar, Saqlain, Inzzy, Akhtar, Moyo, Anwar, YK, Mushtaq and yet saw home record tumbling big time. If team had declined big time and had the same trend away then it's understandable, but that's not the case with Pakistan. You can even make a case for Pakistan having best players playing for them collectively when this happened.
Instability, revolving door of captain etc will have impact on away record as well. It can't have huge impact only at home. Away record remained unchanged but the home record dropped like a rock with the same set of players who were good enough to make claim for a spot in all time Pakistani XI and fill half of the XI.
Um, it did affect Pakistan away too. They were destroyed by WI in 93 due to captaincy issues whereas in 88 they drew against a superior side. The periods they did well was under Wasim in the second half when he was a fairly good captain and stable. I can give more examples.
To see a trend, it's best to look for a large sample size and not read much into isolated examples.