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Waqar Younis vs Virat Kohli

Waqar vs Virat


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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
To see a trend, it's best to look for a large sample size and not read much into isolated examples.

Pakistan W/L away(85-94): 1.2

Neutral umpires worldwide adoption in 94.

Pakistan W/L away ( 95 - 04): 1.2
Dude look at the tests Pakistan lost in those series in the mid 90s and check the captains. Literally the worst loser joke captains in Pakistan history. Rameez, Anwar, Sohail, Moin Khan. The teams were shambles internally and racked with match fixing and fighting already on top of these poor leaders.

A semi decent Miandad or Wasim could have saved those tests.
 

Randomfan

U19 12th Man
It doesn't make sense to say home record where you still had at least one local umpire a game became worse than away in the same period where you don't even have local umpires.
Nah, with both local umpires, players can have blood in the fingures due to getting a cut from bottle cap without umpires doing anything. With one neutral umpire, things changes drastically. Sure, some influence will still remain but you can't have extreme situations. It becomes much harder for batsman to not get out with LBW for long time if you have even one neutral umpire. With 2 home umpires, you could also keep bowling 1 foot outside of line to get infair advanatge. None of that can last with one nuetral umpire. You will get called and even the home umpire will be forced to be less biased.
 

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Nah, with both local umpires, players can have blood in the fingures due to getting a cut from bottle cap without umpires doing anything. With one neutral umpire, things changes drastically. Sure, some influence will still remain but you can't have extreme situations. It becomes much harder for batsman to not get out with LBW for long time if you have even one neutral umpire. With 2 home umpires, you could also keep bowling 1 foot outside of line to get infair advanatge. None of that can last with one nuetral umpire. You will get called and even the home umpire will be forced to be less biased.
Dude at least bother to look how Pakistan lose those series.

95 SL both Wasim and Waqar were injured.
97 SA was a batting collapse.
98 Aus Waqar wasn't there. But frankly Aus were just a better near ATG side.
98 Zimbabwe was batting collapse.
99 SL was again batting collapses. Wasim not there.
2000 England again batting collapse. Wasim not there.

The root issue was incompetent captaincy in all.
 

Randomfan

U19 12th Man
Dude look at the tests Pakistan lost in those series in the mid 90s and check the captains. Literally the worst loser joke captains in Pakistan history. Rameez, Anwar, Sohail, Moin Khan. The teams were shambles internally and racked with match fixing and fighting already on top of these poor leaders.

A semi decent Miandad or Wasim could have saved those tests.
I am not saying that all these players were saint or good captains. But home and away should be seen together. We can't just list all these names for reasons of Pakistan home record drastically dropping when some of them played/captained away without much change in resutls.

Just a cursory look,

Moin khan was captain in away series win in SL.
Latif/Sohail were captains in drawn series in SA.

I do think that Pakistani team underachieved for players they had in 90s. But all of them played home and away both.
 

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