Sachin Tendulkar vs Steve Smith (pace bowling))

[Narayana]

Who is better player of pace bowling ?

 

[Johan]

Smith almost certainly against express pace

 

[centurymaker]

Smith almost certainly against express pace

Certainty not. Smith's avg against deliveries faster than 90 mph is mid 30s iirc. This stat was revealed in the Ashes 2023. Plus Smith never faced bowlers bowling at 155+, while Tendulkar faced Lee & Akhtar. So express pace is certainly Tendulkar. Medium pace may be different.

Edit- his avg against 90 mph balls is actually in the 20s

 

[Johan]

Certainty not. Smith's avg against deliveries faster than 90 mph is mid 30s iirc. This stat was revealed in the Ashes 2023. Plus Smith never faced bowlers bowling at 155+, while Tendulkar faced Lee & Akhtar. So express pace is certainly Tendulkar. Medium pace may be different.

this was posted in 2020, Smith at peak averaging Bradman esque numbers against express pace, Kohli fell off after this and Smith too to an extent but I think this shows how good Smith was against express pace at peak.

 

[centurymaker]

this was posted in 2020, Smith at peak averaging Bradman esque numbers against express pace, Kohli fell off after this and Smith too to an extent but I think this shows how good Smith was against express pace at peak.
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No way this is correct.

In Ashes 2023, Sky Sports literally told us Smith's average (mid 30s) against deliveries bowled at 90 miles or more over his entire career. Thats why England would bring on Mark Wood as soon as he would come to the crease. So Sky commentary team was explaining why England was targeting Smith with Mark Wood.

 

[Narayana]

Certainty not. Smith's avg against deliveries faster than 90 mph is mid 30s iirc. This stat was revealed in the Ashes 2023. Plus Smith never faced bowlers bowling at 155+, while Tendulkar faced Lee & Akhtar. So express pace is certainly Tendulkar. Medium pace may be different.

Nortje, wood are 155+ blowers.

 

[Narayana]

No way this is correct.

In Ashes 2023, Sky Sports literally told us Smith's average (mid 30s) against deliveries bowled at 90 miles or more over his entire career. Thats why England would bring on Mark Wood as soon as he would come to the crease. So Sky commentary team was explaining why England was targeting Smith with Mark Wood.

No you are wrong , after 2020 NZ series he struggling against short balls so they bring him. And Smith was a freak against short balls before 2019 during 2015 ashes, he was smashing many boundaries to wood's short balls.

 

[centurymaker]

How wily old Woakes had Australia on a string in the fourth Ashes Test

The loudest cheers were saved for Broad’s 600th Test wicket, but the all-rounder made the loudest impact with four timely scalps.

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[Narayana]

No way this is correct.

In Ashes 2023, Sky Sports literally told us Smith's average (mid 30s) against deliveries bowled at 90 miles or more over his entire career. Thats why England would bring on Mark Wood as soon as he would come to the crease. So Sky commentary team was explaining why England was targeting Smith with Mark Wood.

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[Narayana]

How wily old Woakes had Australia on a string in the fourth Ashes Test

The loudest cheers were saved for Broad’s 600th Test wicket, but the all-rounder made the loudest impact with four timely scalps.

indianexpress.com

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So which one is correct? Cricviz vs sky sports

 

[Narayana]

How wily old Woakes had Australia on a string in the fourth Ashes Test

The loudest cheers were saved for Broad’s 600th Test wicket, but the all-rounder made the loudest impact with four timely scalps.

indianexpress.com

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This may be true after 2020 period.

 

[OverratedSanity]

How wily old Woakes had Australia on a string in the fourth Ashes Test

The loudest cheers were saved for Broad’s 600th Test wicket, but the all-rounder made the loudest impact with four timely scalps.

indianexpress.com

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25 over his career seems impossible. Doesn't line up with the eye test either.

 

[Narayana]

This tweet was posted on Nov 7 before BGT 24

 

[Narayana]

He might have just gone with the cricviz source.

He is head of cricviz

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[sayon basak]

He is head of cricviz

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Makes sense.

 

[Coronis]

So which one is correct? Cricviz vs sky sports

If I had to guess - the answer is somewhere in the middle

 

[subshakerz]

Sachin. I think there are still questions on Smith

 

[Johan]

Sachin. I think there are still questions on Smith

who would you say are the fastest bowlers of the Fab 4 era

 

[MasterBlaster24]

So which one is correct? Cricviz vs sky sports

I think cricviz is correct.

 

[sayon basak]

If I had to guess - the answer is somewhere in the middle

61.66 sounds good.