***official*** England whiteball tour of india January 2025***

[Sunil1z]

He is being treated like any other person. If ECB are expecting some VVIP treatment, then they were obviously wrong. Last time, it was reported that BCCI actually told ECB it will take 10 days or whatever the regular time frame is for such visas but they did not submit it ahead. Either ECB should try to have a dialogue with Indian Embassy to maybe provide certain details earlier and see if the processing can be done faster. But from all accounts, they simply file the visas along with the rest of the team everytime and then cry foul when the ETA is mentioned to be longer for players with Pakistani origin.

They deliberately do it now . So that their media and followers can whine about it .

 

[Durham Fan]

After this has reared it's head a few times now(when lets be honest it should absolutely not)

But surely the ECB should have raised off Mahmoods far sooner, to avoid such a situation.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1878876746411553231

Absolute joke.

 

[Durham Fan]

Maybe I'm not mental like your government. But I fail to see how Mahmood or Bashir should be blamed for who their family might be.

Bet some other England players have more wrongun family member than either of them.

Unfortunately this is what happens when you vote in cretins like Narendra Modi. How thick, bigoted and blinkered would you have to be to make that bloke your president.

 

[Sunil1z]

Unfortunately this is what happens when you vote in cretins like Narendra Modi. How thick, bigoted and blinkered would you have to be to make that bloke your president.

Lol this rule was made by liberals favourite Man Mohan Singh (after Mumbai attack )who sadly passed away few days ago

 

[Sunil1z]

Imagine voting for a guy like Starmer who blocks enquiry into grooming of minor girls and then taking moral high ground

 

[centurymaker]

Rules are rules. Don't want to follow them, don't bother coming.

 

[honestbharani]

Unfortunately this is what happens when you vote in cretins like Narendra Modi. How thick, bigoted and blinkered would you have to be to make that bloke your president.

You do realize he is not? Right? And at a guess, I think those adjectives would describe you better than anyone else.

 

[Molehill]

He is being treated like any other person.

I think the point here is that he’s an International Cricketer representing his country, he’s not like any other person. Do Indian Cricketers get treated like any other people? I think we know the answer to that….

 

[Spark]

This has gotten far too personal and heated and you all need to take about five steps back - otherwise I'll just tell you all to take it to N+P and delete any further posts on the topic.

 

[honestbharani]

I think the point here is that he’s an International Cricketer representing his country, he’s not like any other person. Do Indian Cricketers get treated like any other people? I think we know the answer to that….

Look, I am with you. The rules of the Indian Government are known. ECB should work with BCCI to see what is the best possible way to ensure they dont get their plans delayed due to this stuff.

The problem is, to anyone's knowledge, ECB have not and keep refusing to do that. And yet they keep making it out as though its someone else's fault.

 

[chris.hinton]

Absolute joke.

Indias system is mad. But the ECB should or would have been aware of this and they should have done something about it prior to all this. Not good for Mahmood really.

 

[Test fan]

Maybe I'm not mental like your government. But I fail to see how Mahmood or Bashir should be blamed for who their family might be.

Bet some other England players have more wrongun family member than either of them.

Stop this mentality . follow the proper rules or stay there .
UK already denied visa for indian football legend Sunil Chhetri just because of their policy.

We can't compromised on our Visa policy just for some random cricketer.

 

[davidba90]

You do realize he is not? Right? And at a guess, I think those adjectives would describe you better than anyone else.

I don't come onto this forum to read uninformed political opinions, or politics at all, keep it on twitter and let the rest of us talk cricket.

 

[centurymaker]

He was born in Birmingham, he went to school near Manchester, he's lived all his life in England. Why should he even have to apply differently anyway?

Just because someone is born in Britain doesn't mean they suddenly have nothing to do with Pakistan, as though they have no connections or family in Pakistan (or connections in Britain who are tied to Pakistan or who visit there).

Anyone who is Pakistan origin goes through 'extensive vetting'. It's simple ECB need to both announce their squad and apply for visa sooner.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Just on this visa issue, I've been watching the latest series of Freddie Flintoff's Field of Dreams (fantastic series by the way) where he takes a group of lads from Preston on tour to India. In their team are a refugee from Afghanistan and two British kids with (I think) Pakistani parents. The two with Pakistani backgrounds couldn't get visas and in the end couldn't go. I was somewhat perturbed by this, but it seems it isn't just ECB players who are victims of geopolitics (assuming all the lads submitted their paperwork on time etc. etc.)

Anyway, watch the Field of Dreams series. Just don't get as frustrated as I did that every cricket match they play seems to be at best a 10-over-a-side hit and giggle. That's the real crime here.

 

[honestbharani]

I don't come onto this forum to read uninformed political opinions, or politics at all, keep it on twitter and let the rest of us talk cricket.

Barking up the wrong tree, bro.

 

[honestbharani]

Saqib Mahmood has got his visa and is travelling with the team to India. So I guess it was the same timelines as previous.

 

[Daemon]

Just on this visa issue, I've been watching the latest series of Freddie Flintoff's Field of Dreams (fantastic series by the way) where he takes a group of lads from Preston on tour to India. In their team are a refugee from Afghanistan and two British kids with (I think) Pakistani parents. The two with Pakistani backgrounds couldn't get visas and in the end couldn't go. I was somewhat perturbed by this, but it seems it isn't just ECB players who are victims of geopolitics (assuming all the lads submitted their paperwork on time etc. etc.)

Anyway, watch the Field of Dreams series. Just don't get as frustrated as I did that every cricket match they play seems to be at best a 10-over-a-side hit and giggle. That's the real crime here.

I went on a cricket trip in 2008 to Bangalore, the 2 kids with Pakistani passports were denied visas.

They were devastated obviously but I was secretly pleased as I could bat higher up the order and have a trundle.

 

[Molehill]

Just on this visa issue, I've been watching the latest series of Freddie Flintoff's Field of Dreams (fantastic series by the way) where he takes a group of lads from Preston on tour to India. In their team are a refugee from Afghanistan and two British kids with (I think) Pakistani parents. The two with Pakistani backgrounds couldn't get visas and in the end couldn't go. I was somewhat perturbed by this, but it seems it isn't just ECB players who are victims of geopolitics (assuming all the lads submitted their paperwork on time etc. etc.)

Anyway, watch the Field of Dreams series. Just don't get as frustrated as I did that every cricket match they play seems to be at best a 10-over-a-side hit and giggle. That's the real crime here.

Totally agree, fantastic series. What Freddie has done for those lads is incredible.

I'd still like to know if the ECB had learnt from previous issues and submitted Mahmood's papers earlier than everyone else's. I don't think this has been confirmed one way or the other.

 

[govinda indian fan]

2 days to go. In t20 we are world champs won 3-1 vs sa with b team so would give us clear edge but in odi would say england would win first odi series win in india since 1984 as our odi team is undercooked