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**Official** 5th Test at Sydney, 3-7 Jan 2025

H

halba

International Debutant
kevinw said:
Unless you're prime WI you won't have three fast bowlers averaging 25. Cummins is one of the best of his generation, Hazelwood superbly consistent and a quick guy bowling LF with a real point of difference (swing, yorkers) at less than 28 is a terrific asset. Australia have had the best bowling attack for the last 7-8 years and Starc has more than done his job.
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thats correct. But he should be rested for the final tests of a 5 match series. he gave away too many in the Ashes as well in 2023(Tests #4-5)
 
The_CricketUmpire

The_CricketUmpire

First Class Debutant
Marnus Labuschagne - Past 44 Innings

Innings: 44
Matches: 23
Runs: 1275
Average: 31.87
50s: 10
100s: 1
50+ Scores: 11
Not Outs: 4
Ducks: 1

So one Test 100 in 44 Innings. Eleven 50+ scores in 44 Innings - averaging a 50+ score every 4 Innings. Not good enough from a Test number 3. Surely the heat has to come? Surely he is in danger of being g dropped from the Test team?
 
F

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
The_CricketUmpire said:
Marnus Labuschagne - Past 44 Innings

Innings: 44
Matches: 23
Runs: 1275
Average: 31.87
50s: 10
100s: 1
50+ Scores: 11
Not Outs: 4
Ducks: 1

So one Test 100 in 44 Innings. Eleven 50+ scores in 44 Innings - averaging a 50+ score every 4 Innings. Not good enough from a Test number 3. Surely the heat has to come? Surely he is in danger of being g dropped from the Test team?
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I'd say he's safe until Cam Green returns especially with Usman struggling too.
 
OverratedSanity

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trundler said:
Day/night tests massively skew Starc's average. He averages 30+ outside of those. Given how rare those tests still are outside Australia it's a massive statistical advantage.
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Averages 30 in day games, and even that is because he beat up SL/WI a lot who've had the weakest batting lineups in this era. Hazelwood and Cummins have hidden how average he usually is.
 
Spark

Spark

Global Moderator
Starfighter said:
Firstly, there's more than enough time, and secondly, they're (strongly IMO) influenced by how aggressively batsmen play.
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I'm not saying strike rate is super important but this line of argument makes no sense. Why would "how aggressively batsmen play" affect only some bowlers and not others, and in a manner somehow divorced from the bowling itself?
 
the big bambino

the big bambino

Cricketer Of The Year
Spark said:
I'm not saying strike rate is super important but this line of argument makes no sense. Why would "how aggressively batsmen play" affect only some bowlers and not others, and in a manner somehow divorced from the bowling itself?
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I'm guessing SF's point was about SRs generally, not just Starc specifically. SRs this era are lower as batsmen play more agressively. To compare Starc with a bowler of this era and another era (Haze and Miller) his SR is superior at 48 v 53 v 61 but when averages are considered the placings are reversed. I kind of agree with him that SR is overrated.
 
Starfighter

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Spark said:
I'm not saying strike rate is super important but this line of argument makes no sense. Why would "how aggressively batsmen play" affect only some bowlers and not others, and in a manner somehow divorced from the bowling itself?
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The overall trend is for lower strike rates and higher economy rates. This clearly tracks changes in batsmanship since the ultra-defensive sixties. As for 'only effects some bowlers', not sure how you're determining that. You could make pairs (e.g. Walsh and Hazlewood) but that'd end in an exercise in cherry picking.
 
Gob

Gob

International Coach
The_CricketUmpire said:
Marnus Labuschagne - Past 44 Innings

Innings: 44
Matches: 23
Runs: 1275
Average: 31.87
50s: 10
100s: 1
50+ Scores: 11
Not Outs: 4
Ducks: 1

So one Test 100 in 44 Innings. Eleven 50+ scores in 44 Innings - averaging a 50+ score every 4 Innings. Not good enough from a Test number 3. Surely the heat has to come? Surely he is in danger of being g dropped from the Test team?
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Dude just stop. Labuschagne saved the last game with two excellent Innings and his first innings 60 odd under light in Adelaide was absolutely critical in setting up the launching pad for Head. Sure he had a dreadful run from the oval last year to Perth this year (there is still a match winning 90 odd in nz in that period so he hasn't been total **** lìke kohli) but there is no one outside the team who is remotely close to his quality and we've seen good signs in this series that he is getting back to his best. You also have to factor in the small matter of probably the greatest fast bowler of all time having his best series so that's obviously going to add few runs to the averages of Australian batsmen in this series. Context matters

Maybe if you drop your **** ass attitude that all current players suck compared to the blokes who retired, you might even enjoy some cricket without whinging every single game about the quality of cricket or players
 
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