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**Official** 5th Test at Sydney, 3-7 Jan 2025

Spikey

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kevinw said:
A very typical Kohli move in this fourth innings - goad the crowd with the (admittedly funny) sandpaper incident when it looked like India were in the game still. The problem is that this looks fine if your own form isn't completely rubbish.
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i think we were getting Kohli's a wanker chants from nearly ball one today. bizarre. kohli having a dig back is fine
 
andruid

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TheJediBrah said:
He's not. He's good on wickets with seam movement. Just happens he's played in those kind of wickets at home and not away. He'd be ordinary on an Aussie road, and he'd be great on a seaming greentop anywhere in the world

I hate to say it, but he's basically just a much better version of Philander
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Jarrod Kimber teaches us that, statistically, he is the hardest bowler in world cricket to play defensive shots against.
 
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TheJediBrah said:
True, but it's inextricable link with economy rate and average means that for bowlers with similar averages, the higher strike rate bowler isn't necessarily the one you'd prefer over a large sample. Starc showed exactly why this very game. The higher strike rate/higher economy guy can have those horror spells where they leak a bunch and get the opposition batsmen off to a start that sets them up for the rest of the game. Now this time it didn't matter because Scotty Boland the hero came in and cleaned up Starc's mess but restricting runs and buliding pressure on the batsmen is just as vital in tests as strike rate.

It's the inverse of why higher strike-rate batsman have this intrisic higher value over time than lower strike-rate. A lot of people don't realise the effect they have on the game outside of the raw numbers, particularly on the guy batting/bowling at the other end
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I didn’t say it’s the most important thing to bowling save doing it overarm, I said it’s very relevant.
 
Burgey

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social said:
Dude, Central is about 5ks away

Burgey & I would drop dead from exhaustion on that trek

Trains are literally outside the MCG and Gabba
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Speak for yourself, I’ve dropped 30kgs.

Actually had to walk to the Dove & Olive today for lunch as part of the bucks day. Pretty annoying as it cost me valuable viewing time at the greatest cricket ground in the world, but only 2km away
 
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Burgey said:
I didn’t say it’s the most important thing to bowling save doing it overarm, I said it’s very relevant.
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Yeah wasn't aiming that rant at you, just a general yelling at the clouds. All in all when it comes to strike rate v economy in Tests, my stance is that it pretty much evens out, and average is pretty much the be all and end all metric everything else being equal.
 
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Congratulations Australia on winning bgt🙂 hope we
win back bgt next time
Now for indian team and bcci should do these things-
Make ranji pitches more spicy like you can make fast and bouncy pitches in north and rank turners in south that would make our domestic players more competent in handling swing and seam
Schedule more A tours esp to sena countries
For team india
Rohit and kohli must retire they are liability at this stage
Manage bumarh carefully
Pick guys like ricky bhui. Pick thoese who do well in first class cricket
Have separate teams for test and lois
Find more pace bowling all rounders
Give chances to different fast bowlers
We are team in transition if we do basic things right in couple of years we will be back to top
 
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GotSpin

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kevinw said:
A very typical Kohli move in this fourth innings - goad the crowd with the (admittedly funny) sandpaper incident when it looked like India were in the game still. The problem is that this looks fine if your own form isn't completely rubbish.
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I dont think there was anything wrong with it. Kohli has been copping it all test
 
silentstriker

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That was a fun series. Many of the reasons India lost started before the toss - the selections did not make any sense to me. I’m not going to belabor the point about Kohli and Rohit - that’s two in your top order that should not be there - but realistically, india just don’t stop guys like that often.

But even with two passengers, india could have done much better and won another Test - at the very least - if the rest of the selection was better. They picked a bunch of blokes who could bowl and barely bowled any of them. They needed to go in with four bowlers, plus one all rounder. That’s it. And then pick the best five batsmen in the country and a keeper. And it was their batting that let them down repeatedly - inning after inning - and game after game - but instead of shoring that up, they kept on going the other way.

As much as I’ve enjoyed their careers and contributions, I think this should be end of the road for Rohit, Kohli, and Jadeja. It’s time to move on, the spinners for the squad in England should be Kuldeep, Axar and Sundar. Batting - I don’t know - but Sarfaraz should get the whole series in England to prove himself one way or another. Jurel should get in there too. KL Rahul did OK early and he looks great when he gets going but his average is 33 after 58 matches. That’s enough of a sample size and he has shown us that’s who he is. Hopefully there’s time to send a bunch of A team guys from those who have done well in Ranji to see who looks good in English conditions and pick some batting and support bowling based on that. Shami would have been very helpful here but he is also recovering from a long injury and he has never been great in England.
 
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silentstriker said:
That was a fun series. Many of the reasons India lost started before the toss - the selections did not make any sense to me. I’m not going to belabor the point about Kohli and Rohit - that’s two in your top order that should not be there - but realistically, india just don’t stop guys like that often.

But even with two passengers, india could have done much better and won another Test - at the very least - if the rest of the selection was better. They picked a bunch of blokes who could bowl and barely bowled any of them. They needed to go in with four bowlers, plus one all rounder. That’s it. And then pick the best five batsmen in the country and a keeper. And it was their batting that let them down repeatedly - inning after inning - and game after game - but instead of shoring that up, they kept on going the other way.

As much as I’ve enjoyed their careers and contributions, I think this should be end of the road for Rohit, Kohli, and Jadeja. It’s time to move on, the spinners for the squad in England should be Kuldeep, Axar and Sundar. Batting - I don’t know - but Sarfaraz should get the whole series in England to prove himself one way or another. Jurel should get in there too. KL Rahul did OK early and he looks great when he gets going but his average is 33 after 58 matches. That’s enough of a sample size and he has shown us that’s who he is. Hopefully there’s time to send a bunch of A team guys from those who have done well in Ranji to see who looks good in English conditions and pick some batting and support bowling based on that. Shami would have been very helpful here but he is also recovering from a long injury and he has never been great in England.
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Do think we need to drop kohli rohit and gill and actually arrange more a tours
 
KungFu_Kallis

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Spark said:
We're pretty fortunate everyone came out of this game without bone fractures in one place or another, and we really can't be saying that about a Test match pitch.
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Was dodgy but not as dodgy as Sydney 2009. That thing had cracks everywhere you could lose your car keys down. And did result in broken bones. And that Smith special. The more handsome Smith.
 
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