**Official** England in New Zealand 28 Nov-18 Dec 2024 - 3 Tests

[KungFu_Kallis]

O'Rourke showing what Southee might have achieved for the team as a batsman if he were more of a team player for the last 16 years.

O'Rourke is ok with not scoring any runs for himself. All Southee is thinking about is getting to 100 sixes in his career.

 

[straw man]

I said this earlier in the thread. He really made his name in white ball cricket where he was rapid, hitting 90+. On his debut he was a steady 87-88 and accurate with it. Really surprised there's so little comment about this change to an 82-83 seamer, whatever his success.

Right, thought someone had posted that he's usually quicker, but couldn't remember for sure.

Might be understandable a drop on pace in the third test of a series, but wasn't appreciably quicker in the first two either.

 

[Bahnz]

Think it's time to get Carse on at Potts end. This is just looking too comfortable for O'Rourke.

 

[Betterpolo]

I don't think it's a conscious decision. I heard on a podcast that he'd said he was struggling for rhythm despite the wickets.

This strategy is ****ing absurd just bowl normally ffs.

That's interesting thanks, and fits with problems with his landing foot earlier in the series. Still though, I feel he shouldn't settle for this and will hopefully work his way through it.

Fundamental question for England is why they should be so innovative and attacking in some parts of the game but not others.

 

[anonymouskefe]

Is that his first every 4

 

[Bahnz]

Nice shot Will!

 

[anonymouskefe]

Potts might be bowling slower than southee

 

[hazsa19]

We have given some really average batsman really easy runs with these tactics. I just refuse to believe the stats back this up so why do they keep doing it?

 

[Betterpolo]

Right, thought someone had posted that he's usually quicker, but couldn't remember for sure.

Might be understandable a drop on pace in the third test of a series, but wasn't appreciably quicker in the first two either.

Also interesting in light of how England do selection nowadays. Atkinson has only played 19 red ball games for Surrey so hasn't maybe totally grooved his action and certainly doesn't have much memory to fall back on when things aren't feeling right.

 

[kevinw]

Pitch might be flatter but I've seldom seen 15 overs of more casual bowling.

 

[Dick Rockett]

Don't really see the point of not taking the easy single there. O'Rourke can obviously defend so let him.

Edit: And again.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

The good news I suppose is that these two lower-order players are showing that there aren't any demons in the pitch, but every run just adds to the pressure on England

 

[Betterpolo]

Here's a thought... bring on the spinner and put a couple of fielders under their noses.

 

[MW1304]

Wow it's actually been a full hour of this shite.

 

[Skyliner]

Stokes comes on and immediately looks far more threatening than the other bowlers.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

I said this earlier in the thread. He really made his name in white ball cricket where he was rapid, hitting 90+. On his debut he was a steady 87-88 and accurate with it. Really surprised there's so little comment about this change to an 82-83 seamer, whatever his success.

I think england juice up their speedguns too

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Here's a thought... bring on the spinner and put a couple of fielders under their noses.

Santner will hit him out of the ground

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Man it is so refreshing to see a tailender stonewalling and the other bat effectively strikefarming. Good job these two.

 

[straw man]

Some masterful plays and misses from O'Rourke this morning

 

[straw man]

Damn