**Official** England in New Zealand 28 Nov-18 Dec 2024 - 3 Tests

[Betterpolo]

If NZ want to take piss they could do this when England go out to bat, putting the field out when Duckett is facing so they can get Crawley on strike

 

[Skyliner]

Why couldn’t the middle order bat time and play the ball on its merits, particularly if the pitch is two paced? I’m playing the worlds smallest violin for them; Williamson and Santner have provided a model of how to bat on this deck, or on any deck in fact.

 

[Betterpolo]

How many times pre-DRS were players given out from the ball brushing the thigh?

 

[ataraxia]

The O'Rourke strategy of "hit the ball when it's hitting the stumps, miss the ball when it's missing the stumps" is such an effective troll to the opposition.

 

[KungFu_Kallis]

Yeah the noise there was the ball hitting the off bail. Too bad they don't bomb us with the tech graphics when it's actually interesting.

 

[straw man]

This might be slightly unpopular given England have comfortably won this series, but I don't see that much in Atkinson. Has a great average for his first fifty test wickets, took the hat trick... Gets some seam movement, but it's pretty gentle pace-wise. If he's bowling at 135km/h, like he's hit at times with the new ball this series, that's a different story. But his average pace for the series has probably been sub 130.

Contrast to Carse, with the height, bounce and extra pace, even if not always accurate. The appeal is obvious.

 

[Dick Rockett]

How many times pre-DRS were players given out from the ball brushing the thigh?

I remember Nathan Astle was once given out in an ODI when the ball hit the drawstring on his pants

Edit: Found a replay of it:

 

[straw man]

The O'Rourke strategy of "hit the ball when it's hitting the stumps, miss the ball when it's missing the stumps" is such an effective troll to the opposition.

In a partnership of 28 runs without scoring, too. Where's the Southee tribute, Will?

 

[kevinw]

Please get the wicket this over!

 

[Molehill]

Looks very easy to bat on now. No idea what this strategy is but it’s not working.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Mix O'Rourke's discipline (apart from that shot) with Rachin Ravindra's stroke play you get Don Bradman.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Looks very easy to bat on now. No idea what this strategy is but it’s not working.

"Drop your attack leader and choose to bowl" a questionable strategy for sure.

 

[Betterpolo]

This might be slightly unpopular given England have comfortably won this series, but I don't see that much in Atkinson. Has a great average for his first fifty test wickets, took the hat trick... Gets some seam movement, but it's pretty gentle pace-wise. If he's bowling at 135km/h, like he's hit at times with the new ball this series, that's a different story. But his average pace for the series has probably been sub 130.

Contrast to Carse, with the height, bounce and extra pace, even if not always accurate. The appeal is obvious.

I said this earlier in the thread. He really made his name in white ball cricket where he was rapid, hitting 90+. On his debut he was a steady 87-88 and accurate with it. Really surprised there's so little comment about this change to an 82-83 seamer, whatever his success.

 

[Immenso]

I wasn't surprised. He's gotten out many times just like this or doing his smart alec little dab to third man

Yes, I got confused with my negatives. I meant not unexpected, e.g. expected.

Have edited that post now....

 

[ataraxia]

Just need these two to keep cool here.

 

[ashley bach]

333-9 @SillyCowCorner1

 

[hazsa19]

I said this earlier in the thread. He really made his name in white ball cricket where he was rapid, hitting 90+. On his debut he was a steady 87-88 and accurate with it. Really surprised there's so little comment about this change to an 82-83 seamer, whatever his success.

I don't think it's a conscious decision. I heard on a podcast that he'd said he was struggling for rhythm despite the wickets.

This strategy is ****ing absurd just bowl normally ffs.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

O'Rourke may be about as potent a run-scorer as Chris Martin, but his defence and his ability to leave the ball look fantastic for a number 11

 

[Bahnz]

Looks very easy to bat on now. No idea what this strategy is but it’s not working.

I think England's attitude is basically this pitch is only going to get better to bat on today, so we really don't care how long it takes to get this last wicket so long as we don't concede too many runs.

 

[mackembhoy]

So Carse is failing miserably at keepy ups instead of bowling

Absolutely pathetic this