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*Official* New Zealand tour of India 2024
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Meridio
International Regular
Na. Leg stump is a thing.
ashley bach
Cricketer Of The Year
Needed that bit of luck before things got out of hand.
ashley bach
Cricketer Of The Year
He'll be batting at least 8
Meridio
International Regular
He's practically standing on his stumps though. Played it terribly
Spark
Global Moderator
It's hit him on the front pad though. It still had a distance to travel.
Like I really feel that's just luck that it was actually shown as clipping there. If you turned that into a probability based projection I think it would be quite low (for a trajectory that's predicted to hit the stumps).
EDIT: To be clear the poor decision was the on-field one. Obviously DRS did its job.
thundaboult
International Debutant
screen showing the dropped catches over n over
screen shows chapman
chapman: "f*** me"
screen shows chapman
chapman: "f*** me"
Spark
Global Moderator
I think that's a very poor decision if that's the case; you need to give the new bloke confidence and stability and messing around with the batting order just for that reason doesn't help.
Meridio
International Regular
It's not though, he's a long way back, the ball has a short distance to travel which makes the probability of the projection being correct more likely.
He'd squared himself up a bit too, looked ugly which always (rightly or wrongly) makes the umpire more likely to give it out
Spark
Global Moderator
Check again. It basically hits him on the crease line - not far forward, but not right in front either. Given the angle of the trajectory, that would have increased the distance it had to travel as well.
I just don't see how an umpire can be at all confident in a call like that IMO, unless it hits the back pad and only has to travel like a foot.
See I don't disagree with this at all. I remember being told the benefit of the doubt part of the law has gone, but it's really marginal with how much that turned and the relative distance it has to the stumps as to giving it out.
I wouldn't say it's a poor decision, but I feel like it's one honestly I would rather be not out. It's barely clipping. Most umpires would give that not out. And also allow me to say in all this that Gough is the best decision maker in the world. But that wicket is a classic example of why I think the on field decision should mean nothing in the process of DRS. Remembering the inventor of the technology himself said last summer that the margins of error and umpires call existed to save the egos of umpires.
ashley bach
Cricketer Of The Year
Get where you're coming from here but ''poor decision'' when it was the correct decision can't really hold sway.
Spark
Global Moderator
I think umpire's call is fine because of that uncertainty - if you're going to overturn a decision it should be with clear evidence, not just replacing one uncertain decision with another one. But yeah that decision I feel didn't meet the threshold of certainty I feel a good umpire should employ.
Can't agree with this, though. I love the idea of floating batting orders and think more sides should be more adaptable to it, in all formats. I remain surprised that teams don't have multiple players padded up and do it more
Spark
Global Moderator
It's about the process rather than the outcome for me.