*OFFICIAL* England in Pakistan 2024

[Flem274*]

Go the uncles

Saud Shakeel is one of the quietest achievers around. Dude pops up every series with a score.

 

[social]

All hail Dizzy

 

[Prince EWS]

I'll be pissed if Sajid doesn't get the 10fer.

Liquor cabinet saved.

 

[Prince EWS]

No joke but I'm increasingly feeling that "we need to protect Babar's average" was a large part of this. It's abundantly clear that they do, in fact, know how to prepare a turning pitch, so clearly the decision not to was a conscious choice by someone.

Ramiz had literally answered some of the questions with "Don't you want to see Babar make a ton at home?" as well.

 

[Spark]

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When I said this I got castrated, now Vaughan is saying the exact same thing

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Ollie Pope has been a meme batsman against spinners ever since we first watched him attempting to "bat" against offspin, some of the ways he tried to play Lyon in the 21-22 Ashes were hilarious. That he fluked his way almost to a double ton against Ashwin and Jadeja just adds to the meme. The man is early career Khawaja levels of bad against spin.

 

[Spark]

You do wonder how much of our utterly woeful second innings was scoreboard pressure, if we’d had a small lead, or even parity, would we have done better?

"Touring team wins toss and looks competitive or even has a small first innings lead but collapses completely in the third innings as the pitch turns more and slows down, taking away most of the batsmens' favoured scoring options" is a thing that happens so often in the subcontinent that I always assume that the home team is favoured in any game where the touring side doesn't have like a 100+ run lead going into the third innings. It's the real danger innings imo.

 

[GIMH]

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Ollie Pope has been a meme batsman against spinners ever since we first watched him attempting to "bat" against offspin, some of the ways he tried to play Lyon in the 21-22 Ashes were hilarious. That he fluked his way almost to a double ton against Ashwin and Jadeja just adds to the meme. The man is early career Khawaja levels of bad against spin.

Not sure fluked is the right word. He played bloody well

 

[social]

Not sure fluked is the right word. He played bloody well

Agreed

He’s one of those guys who looks seriously talented but gets out early a lot

In between, there’s some really, really good innings

Modern day Shaun Marsh

 

[social]

Saw a Pope stat recently

He only lasts 30 balls in a relatively small number of innings

Marsh was the same but in scoring

Most of his innings were <19 for a long time but his average when he got there was really big

Must be mental

 

[Spark]

Not sure fluked is the right word. He played bloody well

I mean more just how utterly outside the norm it was for him against spin when there's any sort of turn on offer

 

[GIMH]

I mean more just how utterly outside the norm it was for him against spin when there's any sort of turn on offer

Also worth remembering that his first innings that Test was almost like watching someone of my standard bat. It was so utterly out of nowhere

 

[danzydab]

Cant ignore Stokes' poor performances as well.

 

[FBU]

Stokes bullish after defeat: 'We've got the best top six in England'

Captain vows to stick by defeated batting core for next month's New Zealand tour, including out-of-sorts Ollie Pope

www.espncricinfo.com

McCullum gave a clear indication that Pope will be retained at No. 3 despite his lean run. "It is not an easy place to bat at No. 3," he told the BBC. "I know Popey will be disappointed with the volume of runs he got in this series, but I expect him to bounce back strongly in New Zealand and we will make sure he's got the required support around him to do so.

 

[kevinw]

Stokes bullish after defeat: 'We've got the best top six in England'

Captain vows to stick by defeated batting core for next month's New Zealand tour, including out-of-sorts Ollie Pope

www.espncricinfo.com

McCullum gave a clear indication that Pope will be retained at No. 3 despite his lean run. "It is not an easy place to bat at No. 3," he told the BBC. "I know Popey will be disappointed with the volume of runs he got in this series, but I expect him to bounce back strongly in New Zealand and we will make sure he's got the required support around him to do so.

I don't think any of us think he'll be dropped. Likewise I don't think any of us suddenly think he'll average 50 over the next couple of seasons. He's just a mediocre batter and it's either an indictment of the county game that the selectors don't think there's anyone better or the selectors themselves.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Brendon McCullum: Ben Stokes' captaincy decision-making affected by injury recovery

Brendon McCullum: Ben Stokes' Captaincy Decision-Making Affected By Injury Recovery | PAK Vs ENG | England Cricket News

England coach Brendon McCullum feels Ben Stokes' captaincy wasn't at his best during their Test series loss to Pakistan, attributing it to his "significant" hamstring injury and his rushed return.

www.wisden.com

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Good nights, guys,

This tour for England has ended...unpin please.

@Red_Ink_Squid @Magrat Garlick @nightprowler10 @Spark

Thanks

 

[Spark]

People are still discussing the series so no it won't be unpinned yet. In a week I'll unpin it.

 

[nightprowler10]

Ramiz had literally answered some of the questions with "Don't you want to see Babar make a ton at home?" as well.

Ramiz must've seen a bit too much star sports with their Kohli dominated coverage, and figured trying to make Babar into a Kohli was the way to get more eyes on the product. Thank **** he's not in charge anymore.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

People are still discussing the series so no it won't be unpinned yet. In a week I'll unpin it.

Just curious, if there is continuous traffic on a thread of a tour that's ended, it stays pinned? The grace period of 1 week seems fine, btw

West Indies v Sri Lanka ended on Saturday, and I prompted the mods to unpin it on Sunday. The mods obliged right away.

Do we hold different standards for different teams?

 

[nightprowler10]

Do we hold different standards for different teams?

You've brought this up before but I'm not sure based on what exactly. The obvious explanation is that different mods have responded to your tags differently since we haven't quite worked out a standard approach yet.