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Debate thread for 2024 ranking of bowlers poll
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Socerer 01
International Captain
now we know why he does the swinging big sword celebration as a homage to a certain other Garner characteristic he shares…….
_00_deathscar
International Regular
Huh I meant the bolded part in what I quoted…
As great as Bumrah is how is he the best bowler you can remember watching when Steyn exists?
_00_deathscar
International Regular
Back then too.
shortpitched713
International Captain
Why would that be such a hard sell? I won't definitely say one is better or worse, personally. But both were more support bowlers than lead options. Personally I think it is quite close between the two.
If Bumrah took another 270ish wickets playing as he has been, he'd very much be in the conversation for ahead of Steyn. I'm not saying definitively better, but debatable.
Socerer 01
International Captain
with Bumrah its easy to see why anyone who has seen him bowl rates him so highly
he is the most complete pace bowler at the moment and maybe in the history of cricket ever, longevity is the main barrier to his place in the hall of fame, if he gets that then he should be top 5 of all time
he is the most complete pace bowler at the moment and maybe in the history of cricket ever, longevity is the main barrier to his place in the hall of fame, if he gets that then he should be top 5 of all time
Malcolm Marshall and Wasim Akram, buddy.
yeah if hed 400+ wickets averaging 20 something, hed be the GOAT but that's a long way off and probably not possible given his age
Even 300 is a long way off. And I never assume bowlers won't come down a bit as they age. Just saying how much respect I've got for him, while still saying I think he should be ranked lower.
Coronis
International Coach
You can say this about a fair few pace bowlers at different points in time, it doesn’t mean much.
Socerer 01
International Captain
its the entire reason why Wasim gets so highly rated so it does mean and should mean much
Coronis
International Coach
Ok sure but Graham McKenzie was the most complete bowler of the late 60’s so I’m gonna rate him above Bumrah.
Socerer 01
International Captain
except we’re not in the 60s are we?
Coronis
International Coach
That wasn’t your argument lol. You’re saying Bumrah could be the GOAT based on a similar length of time being the “most complete fast bowler in the world”
Socerer 01
International Captain
amongst other obvious things like him being ****ing good that i didnt state because they were too obvious, yes
this forum docks points from spinners for not being as versatile as pacers in general, from Anderson and Philander for not being as useful when conditions arent in their favour yet doing the opposite and marking someone up for being an all round complete player is weird now? not to mention the strangest strawman possible of McKenzie from 60s
Line and Length
Cricketer Of The Year
Our recently completed Top 60 Poll of Bowlers comprised 28.33% spinners which I think is a reasonable balance. Opening or Strike bowlers would be expected to make about 50% of any such list leaving 50% to be shared among spinners and first change pace men.
sayon basak
International Debutant
Couldn't resist pointing that out
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
In my defence, in the 21 years of my existence, I knew his name was Chamunda till today.Couldn't resist pointing that out
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Was he? Ahead of Peter Pollock?