Top pace bowlers to debut in 21st century

[Johan]

Abbas was literally Temu Philander.

 

[Majestic]

Hazelwood is same as Philander.

Played only 9 tests in Asia and picked 16 tests wickets at avg of 39.

 

[BazBall21]

Hazlewood > Philander

 

[Fuller Pilch]

For all Tim Southee's faults (and this is written by someone who wants him out of the test team), he is one of the best SENAW seamers in Asia. He is currently on 380 wickets so it would be great if he can quickly get to 400 and retire.

 

[Majestic]

Hazlewood > Philander

Why? Neither good enough to lead attack in Asia as visible by their WPM and the fact that they often get dropped in those game first.

Both superb in SWENA conditions. Hazelwood is tall bouncy bowler while Philander has amazing ability to move the ball both ways.

 

[Majestic]

For all Tim Southee's faults (and this is written by someone who wants him out of the test team), he is one of the best SENAW seamers in Asia. He is currently on 380 wickets so it would be great if he can quickly get to 400 and retire.

Yes his record in Asia is good. But overall career record not that good for a guy who plays his home games in New Zealand.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Hazlewood > Philander

Don't buy that personally. Philander is ahead by a small but very clear margin.

 

[centurymaker]

1) Steyn
2) Anderson (for now)
3) Cummins
4) Bumrah
5) Rabada
6) Broad
7) Hazlewood
8) Philander

Having thought about it, I'll make a correction.

 

[FBU]

Rabada definitely better at home; the gap is exaggerated a bit by English conditions being frequently quite batsman-friendly until the 'pace pandemic'. Rabada has been given almost constant bowling conditions at home, but has been pretty relentless there and has surely won them many games so still deserves the plaudits. I don't think Anderson can match him there, or even be quite as destructive if there was an equivalent stream of English bowler friendly conditions, so that is a mark in KG's favour.

Newlands
Anderson 18.81
Rabada 20.67

 

[Coronis]

Newlands
Anderson 18.81
Rabada 20.67

The other SA grounds they’ve both played on (Durban, Centurion, Wanderers)
Anderson 48.66
Rabada 19.14

 

[govinda indian fan]

Newlands
Anderson 18.81
Rabada 20.67

Rabada and jimmy are totally different bowlers unfair to compere them

 

[Coronis]

Rabada and jimmy are totally different bowlers unfair to compere them

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[ashley bach]

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#Often overrated @OverratedSanity

 

[sayon basak]

Welcome to Player Comparisons, you must be new here. We also compare batsmen vs bowlers, allrounders vs batsmen, allrounders vs bowlers and keepers with… keepers. Enjoy the insanity.

Nice. Guess I'm gonna post a Alfred Mynn vs Fuller Pilch poll now.

 

[Big_Gun]

The 1st tier
Steyn
Bumrah
Rabada
Cummins

The 2nd tier
Anderson
Philander

3rd tier
Johnson 2013-14 was 1st tier
Hazlewood
Starc
Shami
Boult
Morkel

Could of been the best this century

Bond imo the best of the lot, beautiful action, massive inswing, bowled medium pacers line and length at 150kph+
Harris
Asif

 

[Coronis]

Could of been the best this century

Bond imo the best of the lot, beautiful action, massive inswing, bowled medium pacers line and length at 150kph+
Harris
Asif

Nah Rhino was awful before 2010. Basically just got picked for his end career peak and was still quite brittle.

Harris in FC prior to his test debut:

(2001-2009)

38 matches 107 wickets @ 32.93 2 5’fers

Impressive he even managed to get picked for those first tests. Probably because he was doing so well in the ODIs then.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

WOR

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[ataraxia]

WOR

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Agreed with WOR obvs but nah, not particularly close