***Official*** England vs Sri Lanka 21st August-10th September 2024

[GIMH]

His previous tour didn’t go well but if we were ever going to take Woakes away again, NZ is the one I’d be okay with I think?

 

[Molehill]

England don't really have alot of other option, unless they are keen to debut the new guys like Pennington in the Pakistan and New Zealand tour.

Woakes will play in Pakistan most likely

I mean there is a fella with 76 wickets from 20 Tests at under 23 who is bowling his County to Div 2 promotion.....

 

[ImpatientLime]

England don't really have alot of other option, unless they are keen to debut the new guys like Pennington in the Pakistan and New Zealand tour.

Woakes will play in Pakistan most likely

they do however have the option to not pick the worse performing seamer away from home in their entire test history.

 

[Molehill]

Given the proximity of the two tours, it would make sense to rest Woakes from Pakistan and then take him to NZ which is more likely to suit him.

Atkinson, Wood and Stone should be the main seamers in Pakistan (and maybe Tongue if fit) who would likely play with 2 spinners.

 

[chris.hinton]

Chris Woakes shouldn't go overseas with England at all

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Many infractions incoming.

 

[Prince EWS]

Chris Woakes shouldn't go overseas with England at all

Not even if he pays? Harsh.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Chris Woakes shouldn't go overseas with England at all

Agree. They can find better net bowlers in most club 3rd XIs in the cities they visit so why waste money and flights and accommodation.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

I mean there is a fella with 76 wickets from 20 Tests at under 23 who is bowling his County to Div 2 promotion.....

He may well have widdled on the chips though.

Attitude and fitness the issue not the ability

 

[Molehill]

He may well have widdled on the chips though.

Attitude and fitness the issue not the ability

Which I still don't really get as his fitness has been fine for his County this Summer (and he even skipped a couple of County games at the ECB's request), has helped bowl them to a somewhat surprising Blast QF spot too.

You'd think he'd be perfect for NZ pitches and is clearly better than Potts.

 

[ImpatientLime]

Which I still don't really get as his fitness has been fine for his County this Summer (and he even skipped a couple of County games at the ECB's request), has helped bowl them to a somewhat surprising Blast QF spot too.

You'd think he'd be perfect for NZ pitches and is clearly better than Potts.

the list of bowlers better than Potts is quite long in fairness

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Which I still don't really get as his fitness has been fine for his County this Summer (and he even skipped a couple of County games at the ECB's request), has helped bowl them to a somewhat surprising Blast QF spot too.

You'd think he'd be perfect for NZ pitches and is clearly better than Potts.

Well why isn't he involved?

Can only be attitude not ability. I'd have him as attack leader over Woakes and leading the team in Pakistan where he did so well last time.

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

Well why isn't he involved?

Can only be attitude not ability. I'd have him as attack leader over Woakes and leading the team in Pakistan where he did so well last time.

Maybe they don't want Robinson succeed, you unfortunately do get those examples in working environments where someone whose a little bit different gets held to a different standard than everyone else performance wise ..

 

[Howe_zat]

Yeah if they have a plan for attack without Woakes based on conditions and type of bowling then fine, obey the theory and play someone else.

If it's just a case of getting mad at statsguru and playing someone like Potts to do exactly the same thing but worse just for the sake of it then who cares.

 

[mackembhoy]

Which I still don't really get as his fitness has been fine for his County this Summer (and he even skipped a couple of County games at the ECB's request), has helped bowl them to a somewhat surprising Blast QF spot too.

You'd think he'd be perfect for NZ pitches and is clearly better than Potts.

Definitely an attitude issue. He's a bit of a divvy lets be honest.

In the same way Hales even after he'd served his time wasn't brought back under Morgan.

 

[GIMH]

Yeah, I'm not sure it's even remotely confusing why Robinson isn't in the side at the minute. I would love him to earn another chance because his ceiling is huge, but he has only himself to blame.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Definitely an attitude issue. He's a bit of a divvy lets be honest.

In the same way Hales even after he'd served his time wasn't brought back under Morgan.

That was a bit different though as Roy, Bairstow and then Buttler covered the opening slots in white ball cricket very successfully. This is like cutting off our nose to spite our face.

 

[mackembhoy]

That was a bit different though as Roy, Bairstow and then Buttler covered the opening slots in white ball cricket very successfully. This is like cutting off our nose to spite our face.

True enough but I think Stokes/McCullum ain't the type to suffer fools.

McCullum criticism of him in India was pretty damning. First time he'd really openly criticised someone(well in as many words even if he didn't directly say he was crap)

 

[GIMH]

That was a bit different though as Roy, Bairstow and then Buttler covered the opening slots in white ball cricket very successfully. This is like cutting off our nose to spite our face.

Not based on his performance in India

 

[mackembhoy]

Safe to say Stone wouldn't have fared any better than Potts. I said I'd have picked him over Potts yesterday.

Ben McKinney putting him to the sword currently he's gone for 39 off 6 after Notts won toss and chose to bowl.

Other two bowlers gone for 9 off the other 8 overs.