NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
George Worker has retired. Wouldn't say he's been too hard done by but probably deserved more limited overs gigs at various points.
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*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread
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honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
M sure its gonna go over many folks' heads anyways.
Silver Silva
International Regular
From the book we will learn a lot about the nightlife in New Zealand knowing Wagner's love for bouncers.
As I did with his career, I'll predict it to be a complete flop, fall off the shelves and miss the spine, damage the spines of other books on the shelves, and his career won't make the step up from newspaper articles (first class) to published books (Tests).
And as likely as last time, I'll be completely and utterly wrong.
Conway will go to JSK. He's part of the other Super Kings teams, he's Johannesburg-born, it's a natural fit. I thought he'd go there, though I thought it would happen 2 seasons from now.
Allen, don't know what's up with him, honestly. He'll never be in the reckoning for the Test side (barely plays PS), & he's speedrunning into becoming a T20 specialist, which will never justify a central contract.
Allen, don't know what's up with him, honestly. He'll never be in the reckoning for the Test side (barely plays PS), & he's speedrunning into becoming a T20 specialist, which will never justify a central contract.
Nintendo
Cricketer Of The Year
Can't blame either tbh. Allen's a whiteball specialist and has never done particularly well in the PS, and Conway is a late bloomer who's been getting injured more and more. He's got a few years to earn as much as possible, and he's also clearly still committed to playing for NZ given the fact he's made himself available for all 9 tests in the next year and the ODI's in the CT leadup.
Silver Silva
International Regular
Can't blame the players for wanting to earn more money in their careers.
The man was on RCB's bench for 3 years then dropped. It was likely Hesson that got him there in the first place.
I'm not familiar enough with BBL or ILT20 sides to see which teams might be interested (MR picked up Seifert, for crying out loud).
No, I can't (actually, I'm probably about to) - my main issue lies with the ICC. This situation has been coming for years, decades even, and they've done very little, if nothing about it. A proactive, forward-thinking international body should have done more with this situation. It's all well and good for India, Australia and England, whose players don't need to lean on too many franchise comps to earn their living well, but **** me, how long have we known this is a major issue for West Indies? Are we now the new WI? We saw the SA issue last summer, which yes was CSA's **** up but it still exists in an environment where it is allowed to happen.
As for Finn, I will do my best to follow none of his career and I hope he doesn't play for NZ, although I know he will. He's probably the most lazy, entitled cricketer that's ever wandered onto a cricket field in this country and been paid for it. He could have been anything, and played everywhere, including NZ, but he just wants to drink, play golf and wack a few. That's OK, can't blame him. But I can criticise him. Everything I hear is that he's a waste of talent, doesn't train hard, very likely played up the back injury to not tour Pakistan (I saw him playing golf very freely and propping up a bar in QT very soon before) etc. I could say NZ is better off without him, but sadly we're not. I hope he is an outlier in his generation, but again, I worry that he isn't.
We're in a massively precarious position now, and I'm not at all confident anyone at the wheel at NZC or the ICC is going to do enough about it. We now have Kane on a casual contract, Devon the same, Jimmy has turned them down in the past, Trent did too and couldn't be bothered playing a Test in the same suburb as him, CdG handed one back for a lame Big Bash appearance or two, then you have the hypocrisy of some of those guys being welcomed back in, but Munro, McClenaghan etc being blacklisted.
This has officially ventured into shitstorm territory, and I don't think I'm overselling it.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
It'll flop completely to start with then become a bestseller in 4 years time
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
RE Finn... I totally get that it's his destiny to be a T20 hired gun, but I think this is a bit overconfident. He's not the finished product and he hasn't yet dominated a season in any respectable league outside the super smash (I watched some of big MLC innings and he was slashing it over third man half the time).
He'd have been better off keeping the contract and using international cricket to build a reputation and get consistent training time before making the jump in a few years imo, there's a pretty big chance of him fading out of the franchise scene if he doesn't hit a big season soon.
He'd have been better off keeping the contract and using international cricket to build a reputation and get consistent training time before making the jump in a few years imo, there's a pretty big chance of him fading out of the franchise scene if he doesn't hit a big season soon.
Flem274*
123/5
Why would the ICC solve anything? This is a feature, not a bug. We supply talent to their leagues like good little provincial nations, the Big 3 remain "the best in the world" and the suits in the right places make all the money in the world through mass market exploitation of multiple generations who can't put down Facebook (boomers), insta or tik tok.
Cricket is a product to be consumed, not a sport to be played.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
England paid West Indies a touring fee this year. They already know they're in the **** because home tests between smaller nations and the big 3 are never competitive because test cricket isn't financially viable for anyone else, which is finally starting to hit the big boys in the wallet. It's probably too late but people are definitely aware of it at least.
edit: correction, they didn't pay WI but they're paying Zimbabwe next year.