Great lower order batting teams in history?

[howitzer]

Those damn flat 00’s pitches. McGrath the huge beneficiary.



2 extremely mediocre test sides for a bicentennial match..

Yeah both poor sides, as were India at the time. It really was basically WI, Pak and NZ at the time.

 

[Prince EWS]

Yeah both poor sides, as were India at the time. It really was basically WI, Pak and NZ at the time.

Ah yes, the big three.

 

[reyrey]

Really? surely not

Not sure if this is sarcasm, but yeah McGraths batting improved a fair bit.

Steve Waugh once took him on as a batting pupil but abandoned the cause when it seemed hopeless. But during his 10-month lay-off for ankle surgery, McGrath got serious. He went to the nets twice a week and stood in front of the ball machine. "I was probably hitting 500 balls a week, which before I would have been lucky to do in a month, if not two months," McGrath said last night. "Actually, that's probably being kind - probably 12 months."

McGrath remains convinced he started improving after Waugh, his "so-called batting coach", gave up on him.

Pigeon buries the bunny at the Gabba

www.theage.com.au

 

[TheJediBrah]

Yeah I know it improved and it was a big talking point at the time, I just didn't realise he got so "good" that he was averaging 10 over a decent period. He still looked awful

 

[Coronis]

Imagine if the great batsmen were that dedicated.

 

[reyrey]

Yeah I know it improved and it was a big talking point at the time, I just didn't realise he got so "good" that he was averaging 10 over a decent period. He still looked awful

McGraths averages under different captains/eras (Ponting and Waugh were the good years).

Yeah he was still pretty awful, but I think the main difference was that he started playing a few shots rather than just standing there with a bat in hand

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Avg	BF	SR	100s	50s	0s	4s	6s
*AR Border	1993-1994	5	5	2	11	9	3.66	26	42.30	0	0	1	0	0
*AC Gilchrist	2000-2004	6	9	4	27	11*	5.40	53	50.94	0	0	2	4	0
*RT Ponting	2004-2007	25	27	12	173	61	11.53	387	44.70	0	1	7	16	1
*MA Taylor	1994-1999	40	49	14	161	24	4.60	497	32.39	0	0	18	7	0
*SR Waugh	1999-2003	48	48	19	269	39	9.27	607	44.31	0	0	7	24	0

 

[Sunil1z]

Is this forum really discussing Glenn McGrath batting?

 

[TheJediBrah]

I remember he was using the clean skin bat for a while, always jokes about him looking for a sponsor

 

[Prince EWS]

Is this forum really discussing Glenn McGrath batting?

The birth of the Garner for batting meme was literally AA talking about McGrath's batting.

 

[Prince EWS]

I remember he was using the clean skin bat for a while, always jokes about him looking for a sponsor

Whichever brand he was actually using was actually paying him to take off the stickers IMO.

 

[Sunil1z]

The birth of the Garner for batting meme was literally AA talking about McGrath's batting.

Oh I forgot him.
Have to say , guy was true to his words and left the forum after WC final after he lost the bet .

 

[howitzer]

McGraths averages under different captains/eras (Ponting and Waugh were the good years).

Yeah he was still pretty awful, but I think the main difference was that he started playing a few shots rather than just standing there with a bat in hand

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Avg	BF	SR	100s	50s	0s	4s	6s
*AR Border	1993-1994	5	5	2	11	9	3.66	26	42.30	0	0	1	0	0
*AC Gilchrist	2000-2004	6	9	4	27	11*	5.40	53	50.94	0	0	2	4	0
*RT Ponting	2004-2007	25	27	12	173	61	11.53	387	44.70	0	1	7	16	1
*MA Taylor	1994-1999	40	49	14	161	24	4.60	497	32.39	0	0	18	7	0
*SR Waugh	1999-2003	48	48	19	269	39	9.27	607	44.31	0	0	7	24	0

It's not just that. His balls per dismissal did improve too. Up until the end of the 98-99 Ashes (when his career average was a shocking 4.52) he only faced 13.76 balls per dismissal. It was 21.37 thereafter so he was definitely lasting longer too.

 

[howitzer]

Oh I forgot him.
Have to say , guy was true to his words and left the forum after WC final after he lost the bet .

@Prince EWS should apologise for reminding you.

 

[trundler]

Oh I forgot him.
Have to say , guy was true to his words and left the forum after WC final after he lost the bet .

He made a multi and got banned again

 

[Coronis]

McGraths averages under different captains/eras (Ponting and Waugh were the good years).

Yeah he was still pretty awful, but I think the main difference was that he started playing a few shots rather than just standing there with a bat in hand

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Avg	BF	SR	100s	50s	0s	4s	6s
*AR Border	1993-1994	5	5	2	11	9	3.66	26	42.30	0	0	1	0	0
*AC Gilchrist	2000-2004	6	9	4	27	11*	5.40	53	50.94	0	0	2	4	0
*RT Ponting	2004-2007	25	27	12	173	61	11.53	387	44.70	0	1	7	16	1
*MA Taylor	1994-1999	40	49	14	161	24	4.60	497	32.39	0	0	18	7	0
*SR Waugh	1999-2003	48	48	19	269	39	9.27	607	44.31	0	0	7	24	0

Correct way to measure captaincy.

 

[quincywagstaff]

Australia's 7 to 11 on the final Test of their 1992 Sri Lanka tour was one of their strongest:

Greg Matthews
Ian Healy
Craig McDermott (should've been 11)
Shane Warne
Tony Dodemaide

Just as well they had a strong tail to save the match as none of Australia's top 5 reached 25 in either innings!

 

[Prince EWS]

Oh I forgot him.
Have to say , guy was true to his words and left the forum after WC final after he lost the bet .

He rejoined with a multi which we had to ban, so don't give him too much credit.

But yeah give him more credit than @RossTaylorsBox.

 

[Migara]

Really scraping the bottom now if we're comparing who was the better bat between Murali and McG

Nah Chris Martin, Tuffnel and Courtney Walsh that would be

 

[howitzer]

Nah Chris Martin, Tuffnel and Courtney Walsh that would be

Chandrasekhar vs Ironmonger is a good one.

 

[Coronis]

At least Bert has the excuse of half a finger for his batting and fielding.