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*Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

It's more just they would get punished by better sides with how we've played in these two games.

They've already kind of treated this series with disdain how much the Ashes has been talked about.

But if we play the way they've done in these two games with sloppy dismissals galore they won't post 350+ first innings scores in Australia and more like sub 250.

Especially when you'd want 450+ type scores in Australia.
It's also why some of our players will finish their careers with averages between 35-40 rather than 45+
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
121 from Pope. No credit?
Stokes' first score with the bat this summer
3rd fastest Test 50 for England from Duckett

Hope they aren't included in your no credit
I did say not many.

Pope does get credit, but he should’ve been out before he got to 50.

Stokes batted well, but then got out to a long hop. So….
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
According to Nasser this is the first time in 14 years , spin has been used on the first day at Trent Bridge

is he correct about that ? Surely there will have been a single over before lunch once in that time
This was only 13 years ago.

And this was only 12 years ago.

And this was only 11 years ago.

Rashid would have bowled on Day 1 six years ago.

Ditto Jadeja three years ago.


I think that Nasser may have got this one wrong.
 
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GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I did say not many.

Pope does get credit, but he should’ve been out before he got to 50.

Stokes batted well, but then got out to a long hop. So….
Batsmen get out like. It happens.

400 in a day. I’ll take that day one every single time
 

mackembhoy

International Regular
Batsmen get out like. It happens.

400 in a day. I’ll take that day one every single time
It feels daft complaining when as you said, they've done what every side would love to do day 1 of a test.

It's just they've talked about this soft reset of the team.

I've seen no real change from how we played in the bad moments against Aus/India.

Just we've got a weaker opposition to contend with and so we've not been punished.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
121 from Pope. No credit?
Stokes' first score with the bat this summer
3rd fastest Test 50 for England from Duckett

Hope they aren't included in your no credit
400 runs and 9 wickets obviously no good at all.
 

CartyDurham

International Captain
Bashir batted like a prime Monty Panesar in the first test . Too late to see the openers now so might as well just get swinging
 

Silver Silva

International Regular
This was only 13 years ago.

And this was only 12 years ago.

And this was only 11 years ago.
Maybe he meant a wicket to spin on day 1
 

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