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Hooper should be 80th on all of these imo
Wrong. The greatest cricketer to play any number of testsKallis is easily the greatest cricketer to play 100 tests.
Younis is way too low1) Sachin Tendulkar
2) Viv Richards
3) Shane Warne
4) Jacques Kallis
5) Muttiah Muralitharan
6) Wasim Akram
7) Glenn McGrath
8) Steve Smith
9) Ian Botham
10) Brian Lara
11) AB De Villiers
12) Shaun Pollock
13) Kumar Sangakkara
14) Ricky Ponting
15) Sunil Gavaskar
16) Geoff Boycott
17) Virat Kohli
18) Joe Root
19) Clive Lloyd
20) Gordon Greenidge
21) Rahul Dravid
22) Allan Border
23) Graham Gooch
24) Kapil Dev
25) Courtney Walsh
26) Ben Stokes
27) Hashim Amla
28) Colin Cowdrey
29) David Gower
30) Kevin Pietersen
31) Steve Waugh
32) James Anderson
33) Javed Miandad
34) Mark Waugh
35) Graham Thorpe
36) Michael Clarke
37) Graeme Smith
38) Anil Kumble
39) VVS Laxman
40) Mathew Hayden
41) Shiv Chanderpaul
42) Ravichandran Ashwin
43) Gary Kirsten
44) David Boon
45) Alec Stewart
46) Desmond Haynes
47) Kane Williamson
48) Mark Taylor
49) Saleem Malik
50) Justin Langer
51) Alastair Cook
52) Cheteshwar Pujara
53) Stuart Broad
54) Virender Sehwag
55) Mahela Jayawardene
56) Chaminda Vaas
57) Nathan Lyon
58) Inzamam Ul Haq
59) Younis Khan
60) Makhaya Ntini
61) Daniel Vettori
62) Harbhajan Singh
63) Tim Southee
64) Michael Atherton
65) Angelo Mathews
66) Ian Healy
67) Stephen Fleming
68) Chris Gayle
69) David Warner
70) Mark Boucher
71) Carl Hopper
72) Sourav Ganguly
73) Ian Bell
74) Jonny Bairstow
75) Brendon Mccullum
76) Andrew Strauss
77) Dilip Vengsarkar
78) Ross Taylor
79) Sanath Jayasuriya
80) Ishant Sharma
He’s in the conversation for sure.Wrong. The greatest cricketer to play any number of tests
No he killed the conversation the day he started playingHe’s in the conversation for sure.
Taylor, Ashwin, Healy too high.1. Sachin Tendulkar
2. Glenn McGrath
3. Steve Smith
4. Jacques Kallis
5. Brian Lara
6. Mutthiah Muralitharan
7. Shane Warne
8. Viv Richards
9. Sunil Gavaskar
10. Wasim Akram
11. Kumar Sangakkara
12. Allan Border
13. Steve Waugh
14. Shaun Pollock
15. Ian Botham
16. Ravichandran Ashwin
17. Ricky Ponting
18. Rahul Dravid
19. Courtney Walsh
20. Javed Miandad
21. Kapil Dev
22. A B de Villiers
23. James Anderson
24. Anil Kumble
25. Joe Root
26. Virat Kohli
27. Younis Khan
28. Kane Williamson
29. Geoff Boycott
30. Graeme Smith
31. Clive Lloyd
32. Gordon Greenidge
33. Nathan Lyon
34. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
35. Hashim Amla
36. Stuart Broad
37. Matthew Hayden
38. Virendra Sehwag
39. Inzamam-ul-Haq
40. Alastair Cook
41. Graham Gooch
42. V V S Laxman
43. Michael Clarke
44. Kevin Pietersen
45. Colin Cowdrey
46. Ben Stokes
47. Ian Healy
48. Mahela Jayawardene
49. David Gower
50. Gary Kirsten
51. Cheteshwar Pujara
52. Ross Taylor
53. Graham Thorpe
54. Alec Stewart
55. Mark Taylor
56. David Boon
57. Chamunda Vaas
58. Mark Waugh
59. Justin Langer
60. Daniel Vettori
61. Brendon McCullum
62. Saleem Malik
63. Tim Southee
64. Makhaya Ntini
65. Dilip Vengsarkar
66. Chris Gayle
67. Angelo Mathews
68. Sourav Ganguly
69. Mark Boucher
70. Mike Atherton
71. Desmond Haynes
72. David Warner
73. Stephen Fleming
74. Harbhajan Singh
75. Ian Bell
76. Andrew Strauss
77. Carl Hooper
78. Sanath Jayasuriya
79. Jonny Bairstow
80. Ishant Sharma
Still too lowSeriously tho, i think I will place him at 5. Placed him a bit too low before.
Nah. Let’s make a deal. You rate Viv Richards much higher and I’ll do the same with Kallis.Still too low
Not sure but I’ll take this anyway over Kallis>Tendulkar and the sortWasim > Kallis
Ross Taylor I think is quite an underrated bat. Ashwin is probably a bit too high, but I do think he is better than Dravid, so that felt about right. Healy is one of the best wicketkeeper ever. Though wasn't much with the bat, that felt about right. Haynes I feel is massively overrated in Tests for some reason. He was a big home bully, if anything I am thinking now Warner should had been ahead.Taylor, Ashwin, Healy too high.
Haynes too low.
Ashwin over Ponting - nah I'm not having that. Top 30 is fair but top 20 is too high.Ross Taylor I think is quite an underrated bat. Ashwin is probably a bit too high, but I do think he is better than Dravid, so that felt about right. Healy is one of the best wicketkeeper ever. Though wasn't much with the bat, that felt about right. Haynes I feel is massively overrated in Tests for some reason. He was a big home bully, if anything I am thinking now Warner should had been ahead.
Ashwin over Ponting.... Is debatable. I have Ponting almost equal to Dravid, and Ashwin ahead of him. So went with that. I believe Ashwin is a top 5 home bowler of all time and made India an outright fort, also was a genuine allrounder in his batting peak. Above Ponting is debatable, but definitely top 20.Ashwin over Ponting - nah I'm not having that. Top 30 is fair but top 20 is too high.
I like Haynes. Has more quality overseas performances than his away average suggests and opening tax broadens that value. Only place he was never effective was India. Also not convinced having a better home average than Viv Richards, Gordon Greenidge and Clive Lloyd should go completely ignored.
Think he's a better test bat than Taylor tbh. Worth pointing out Zimbabwe give Taylor's away numbers an almighty boost.
Haynes Taylor home away splits are identical without Zimbabwe. Haynes never got to plunder a severe minnow attack like that in test cricket and he opened.Ashwin over Ponting.... Is debatable. I have Ponting almost equal to Dravid, and Ashwin ahead of him. So went with that. I believe Ashwin is a top 5 home bowler of all time and made India an outright fort, also was a genuine allrounder in his batting peak. Above Ponting is debatable, but definitely top 20.
Haynes I take that, but still the average split is too awful. Did very well at home, but not completely sold away still. I think he is around Warner/Atherton level opener.
The only player below Ross who is pushing him is Thorpe. I think he was a better bat than the rest. Serve NZ cricket splendidly in a relatively weak lineup. I bunch him with Pujara. Definitely ahead of Haynes for me.
Fair enough. Taylor did better in Australia and carried a weaker team.Haynes Taylor home away splits are identical without Zimbabwe. Haynes never got to plunder a severe minnow attack like that in test cricket and he opened.
Definitely better than Warner and Atherton too for me. Better player of lateral movement than both.
Haynes had some brutal assignments early on in his career in Aus and had a great tour there in the late 80s. Taylor's record is inflated by a single innings. He averages 27 there outside that.Fair enough. Taylor did better in Australia and carried a weaker team.
Warner was also quite destructive when on song and could outright dominate any attack in Australia, scoring at a really high SR. Was also brilliant in SA.
Some really Good arguments. I just think Taylor overall did better than Haynes.Haynes had some brutal assignments early on in his career in Aus and had a great tour there in the late 80s. Taylor's record in Aus has big padding from the 290 on a road. He averages 27 there outside that.
Weaker team yeah but think big team tax is negated a bit by opening.
Yeah, personally, I'd have Haynes. It's a very good list overall.Some really Good arguments. I just think Taylor overall did better than Haynes.