The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[capt_Luffy]

Historical documents written by British Anthropologists before 1950s a lot of them are proven wrong. Just because you see an information in Internet it won't become absolute truth. For Example : Earth is Round is what most Asians used to believe for Centuries. But many European and Middle East Kingdoms used to believe Earth is Flat. These People when they started trading with Asian Countries got the idea that Earth can be round.

You have to understand that People in Power will manipulate many things for making the masses believe that they are Stronger and Smarter. I don't hate British but what i am saying is its human nature around the World.

Dude, I literally pointed to a minor, almost meaningless court proceeding documented over 400 years ago..... There is no need tx forge that. Also, the Earth being round was also believed by the Ancient Greeks; Erathosthenes also measured the Earth's curvature in 240 BC with great precision for the time. The later believe of flat Earth wasn't British exclusive but was believed across Europe, forced by the Church. They certainly took credit for many things they stole from others, but there are no proof of cricket being one of them and exceeding proof that it was originated by the Saxons or Normans.
Another example from when cricket became much more mainstream, is John Small. He played in the 1760s, and was one of the pioneers of the modern bat.

 

[capt_Luffy]

what extreme you mean ?

It's a very slippery slope. Stupid conspiracy theoriests like Flat Earthers, hollow Earthers and Illuminati believers basically just believe that everyone in power is lying, for the dumbest of reasons and that they have uncovered the truth; with painstakingly laughable shitty proof while ignoring everything else.

 

[CricketFan90s]

It's a very slippery slope. Stupid conspiracy theoriests like Flat Earthers, hollow Earthers and Illuminati believers basically just believe that everyone in power is lying, for the dumbest of reasons and that they have uncovered the truth; with painstakingly laughable ****ty proof while ignoring everything else.

oh you are offended so quickly. have an open dialogue man. Greeks themselves were highly influenced by Indian Philosophical thought.

 

[capt_Luffy]

oh you are offended so quickly. have an open dialogue man.

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Dude, I AM having an open dialogue and am not offended at all..... You asked about the extreme end of your reasoning, I pointed out those.

 

[CricketFan90s]

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Dude, I AM having an open dialogue and am not offended at all..... You asked about the extreme end of your reasoning, I pointed out those.

16th century onwards British started trading with India and that gave them exposure to lot of Cultural richness of India which was extremely diverse. Read the Philosophical books of India will blow your mind they had advanced ideas in those days. Its not Greeks who influenced them as their influence became little by then. British were interacting constantly with Indians and were successful in establishing their empire in India. Many British Anthropologists became very enthusiastic when they came across new ideas in Indian Books. They translated those books in a way that suit their political intention to divide and rule and used the original texts to their benefit.

Greeks and Indians in Ancient Times Trading partners and India had huge influence on Greeks.

"Cultural Diversity is a Sign of Abundant Resources"

 

[Starfighter]

Dude, I literally pointed to a minor, almost meaningless court proceeding documented over 400 years ago..... There is no need tx forge that. Also, the Earth being round was also believed by the Ancient Greeks; Erathosthenes also measured the Earth's curvature in 240 BC with great precision for the time. The later believe of flat Earth wasn't British exclusive but was believed across Europe, forced by the Church.

That isn't correct either. Belief in a round Earth has been normal amongst educated Europeans since late Roman times, and certainly was in the middle ages.

 

[CricketFan90s]

That isn't correct either. Belief in a round Earth has been normal amongst educated Europeans since late Roman times, and certainly was in the middle ages.

Middle Ages in Europe were influenced by Christianity which became Popular during Roman Empire.

 

[CricketFan90s]

 

[Starfighter]

Middle Ages in Europe were influenced by Christianity which became Popular during Roman Empire.

I know I'm taking a big risk engaging you because of your expressed enthno-religious nationalist beliefs that are very far removed from reality, but no, educated medieval Christians generally believed the Earth was round.

 

[CricketFan90s]

This is a Sanskrit Hymn from Rig Veda considered oldest religious book. See how Agnostic it sounds.

 

[CricketFan90s]

I know I'm taking a big risk engaging you because of your expressed enthno-religious nationalist beliefs that are very far removed from reality, but no, educated medieval Christians generally believed the Earth was round.

So Christians did not believe God made Earth in 7 days ?, I personally believe there is some truth in Bible but it was misinterpreted by Christian Scholars like the concept of Trinity but that's again a different topic.

 

[kyear2]

oh you are offended so quickly. have an open dialogue man. Greeks themselves were highly influenced by Indian Philosophical thought.

I know you don't see it, but you do partake in many of the same behaviors that you reference.

Not saying it's right or wrong, but you do.

But I'll leave it alone.

 

[CricketFan90s]

I know I'm taking a big risk engaging you because of your expressed enthno-religious nationalist beliefs that are very far removed from reality, but no, educated medieval Christians generally believed the Earth was round.

Political Branding is not right. Just take part in a discussion and give logical points. They are not nationalistic beliefs its just some bitter facts. I was just saying a logical point that British who started trading with India will be Influenced by India more than Greeks whose glory was long gone by medieval times.

 

[kyear2]

Political Branding is not right. Just take part in a discussion and give logical points. They are not nationalistic beliefs its just some bitter facts.

Look back at the comments you made when I called Hobbs "The Master", far less the last page dude.

 

[CricketFan90s]

Look back at the comments you made when I called Hobbs "The Master", far less the last page dude.

Hobbs was a Master, yes i agree he was a Master but with little competition. He was with out any doubt the Best Batsmen in the World but the problem is other countries were not as privileged as him as still they were colonized and unable to play Cricket.

You need to understand i am not portraying British as Bad. They brought a good change to the World and also some are exaggerated and some damage also they have done.

 

[CricketFan90s]

This is a Sanskrit Hymn from Rig Veda considered oldest religious book. See how Agnostic it sounds.

@kyear2 pay attention to this hymn and say if it sounds religious ?
and British used to say Indians and Dogs not allowed at one point of time and called their culture Barbaric.

 

[Starfighter]

Political Branding is not right. Just take part in a discussion and give logical points. They are not nationalistic beliefs its just some bitter facts. I was just saying a logical point that British who started trading with India will be Influenced by India more than Greeks whose glory was long gone by medieval times.

The political branding is correct and your little rants have been remarkably devoid of facts.

 

[CricketFan90s]

The political branding is correct and your little rants have been remarkably devoid of facts.

devoid of facts ? are you kidding. Do you know about Bengal Famine of 1943 ? why it occured ? more than a million people died of hunger in one of the region famous for abaundant rice cultivation - Bengal ( A province now divided into West Bengal in India and Bangladesh). British took away rice crops from this place to support Britain and its military during WW2 and more than 3 million people in that region died of hunger.

Do you think a Small Continent like Europe can wage World Wars ? with out the support of colonized nations ? and support of India for Britain was key to their Success.

 

[kyear2]

devoid of facts ? are you kidding. Do you know about Bengal Famine of 1943 ? why it occured ? more than a million people died of hunger in one of the region famous for abaundant rice cultivation - Bengal ( A province now divided into West Bengal in India and Bangladesh). British took away rice crops from this place to support Britain and its military during WW2 and more than 3 million people in that region died of hunger.

Do you think a Small Continent like Europe can wage World Wars ? with out the support of colonized nations ? and support of India for Britain was key to their Success.

How did we get here?

 

[CricketFan90s]

How did we get here?

i am giving you facts and you cannot take it. If you think you want to be absolutely unbiased then acknowledge it.