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I've only had four. Call me soon.I've already had 6 does that count?
I've only had four. Call me soon.I've already had 6 does that count?
Zip it, ****If you feel like abusing your mod powers (I'm so sure you do!!) I've got a list......bench the fkn lot of them for eternity.
Really don't think it does. Warne will always be a cult figure in England anyway, we loved to hate him but loved his genius too and the way he played his cricket.I think the Warne figure would matter much more to the English public though, it's an interesting possibility.
I think there's now a fair respect for both Ponting and McGrath who do some decent media work. Ponting's analysis is top notch whilst McGrath comes across as a decent bloke on TMS. Not sure I've ever heard anyone say anything good about Waugh though (and that probably includes half the Aussies who played with him).Think Warne was always well liked in England tbh.
McGrath, S Waugh, Ponting etc weren't.
Waugh hasn't done a lot of media work and he's still immensely popular amongst casual fans here (and a lot of people are well aware of his charity work in India) but it's fair to say the shine has come off his all-encompassing cult of personality a fair bit. A lot of people are increasingly willing to state the obvious and point out that many of the cultural issues that Australian cricket developed in the 2000s and 2010s trace their lineage to his door.I think there's now a fair respect for both Ponting and McGrath who do some decent media work. Ponting's analysis is top notch whilst McGrath comes across as a decent bloke on TMS. Not sure I've ever heard anyone say anything good about Waugh though (and that probably includes half the Aussies who played with him).
I reckon we English loved Warne more than the Aussies tbh.....total respect for McGrath, less so for Waugh.......hated Ponting in his playing days but full respect for him now.Think Warne was always well liked in England tbh.
McGrath, S Waugh, Ponting etc weren't.
Same about Ponting, but you could never begrudge his grittiness. That innings at OT in 2005 one of the very best I've seen. It's interesting comparing to some of the current players and how those we disliked in their playing careers have become popular. Smith is just a bit meh, we've never really hated him (the pantomime boos were just a bit of fun), but I can't see us ever really liking him either. Warner is just never going to be popular. Cummins could probably marry into the Royal Family if he wanted to (why would you?). Lyon seems like a decent bloke but with the ability to say something stupid and annoying (see last week).I reckon we English loved Warne more than the Aussies tbh.....total respect for McGrath, less so for Waugh.......hated Ponting in his playing days but full respect for him now.
What about Carey?Same about Ponting, but you could never begrudge his grittiness. That innings at OT in 2005 one of the very best I've seen. It's interesting comparing to some of the current players and how those we disliked in their playing careers have become popular. Smith is just a bit meh, we've never really hated him (the pantomime boos were just a bit of fun), but I can't see us ever really liking him either. Warner is just never going to be popular. Cummins could probably marry into the Royal Family if he wanted to (why would you?). Lyon seems like a decent bloke but with the ability to say something stupid and annoying (see last week).
I think he's largely been forgotten about already, we've moved on. Broad's probably not too far wrong with his assertion at the time that it's all he'll be remembered for (in this country anyway).What about Carey?
Panto or genuine dislike/belief he cheated
Genuine cricket fans all know that was fair game......those ***** in the longroom...total embarrassment. But that said I ****ing loved Broads performance after it......made something out of it but only in the contest. Was just brilliant cricket.What about Carey?
Panto or genuine dislike/belief he cheated
I'll remember him for costing us a very rare test win against us a couple of months although I blame our selectors more.I think he's largely been forgotten about already, we've moved on. Broad's probably not too far wrong with his assertion at the time that it's all he'll be remembered for (in this country anyway).
The English cricket media adored Warne, and I think the supporters couldn't help but like him too. I tend to experience quite a lot of England fans not liking Murali very much and I suspect some of that is because of the natural Warne comparison.I reckon we English loved Warne more than the Aussies tbh.....total respect for McGrath, less so for Waugh.......hated Ponting in his playing days but full respect for him now.
Wow..... I don't why but I always got the impression of your age to be closer to the likes of L&L and JBmac than meThe English cricket media adored Warne, and I think the supporters couldn't help but like him too. I tend to experience quite a lot of England fans not liking Murali very much and I suspect some of that is because of the natural Warne comparison.
With McGrath, he wasn't as warm and captivating as Warne, but you couldn't not respect him. I was born in 2001 - I'd have hated him if I was born 10 years earlier!