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Anderson to end Test career this summer

BazBall21

International Captain
I'm surprised he's only getting one test this summer tbh. But I think finishing this summer is the right time. With hindsight, he probably should have gone out with Broad but I guess Broad would have wanted his own send off.
 

Chin Music

State Vice-Captain
It was going to happen some day, but still a shock now that we know it is happening very soon. 15 wickets in his last 8 tests is a figure that was bounded around. We did see that he wasn't the same force but it is still a firm decision to move him on.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
I think the Warne figure would matter much more to the English public though, it's an interesting possibility.
Really don't think it does. Warne will always be a cult figure in England anyway, we loved to hate him but loved his genius too and the way he played his cricket.

700 is an astonishing feat for a seamer and will probably never be beaten. Happy with that, and to be honest, I don't have as much issue as others seem to about moving him on.

This is the perfect Summer to blood new fast bowlers and get them ready for bigger series to come.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Think Warne was always well liked in England tbh.

McGrath, S Waugh, Ponting etc weren't.
I think there's now a fair respect for both Ponting and McGrath who do some decent media work. Ponting's analysis is top notch whilst McGrath comes across as a decent bloke on TMS. Not sure I've ever heard anyone say anything good about Waugh though (and that probably includes half the Aussies who played with him).
 

chris.hinton

International Captain
Fine Bowler. Should have gone before Broad did, Hasn't really been effective for a while but obviously he deserves his swansong and he will be missed and it will be weird has he been in the team for the best part of 20 years.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Still feel he's in England's best seam attack. Probably still England's best seamer. If you're still fit and able to go, you should still be picked. I don't like this whole "quiet word" bullshit.

Hopefully he'll be like England's version of Glenn McGrath in retirement and predict 5 - 0 England wins every series.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
I think there's now a fair respect for both Ponting and McGrath who do some decent media work. Ponting's analysis is top notch whilst McGrath comes across as a decent bloke on TMS. Not sure I've ever heard anyone say anything good about Waugh though (and that probably includes half the Aussies who played with him).
Waugh hasn't done a lot of media work and he's still immensely popular amongst casual fans here (and a lot of people are well aware of his charity work in India) but it's fair to say the shine has come off his all-encompassing cult of personality a fair bit. A lot of people are increasingly willing to state the obvious and point out that many of the cultural issues that Australian cricket developed in the 2000s and 2010s trace their lineage to his door.

"Mental disintegration" is one of those concepts which is almost too embarrassing to talk about publicly in the media now, it's just so obviously not appropriate in a game of cricket or any other sport.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
I reckon we English loved Warne more than the Aussies tbh.....total respect for McGrath, less so for Waugh.......hated Ponting in his playing days but full respect for him now.
Same about Ponting, but you could never begrudge his grittiness. That innings at OT in 2005 one of the very best I've seen. It's interesting comparing to some of the current players and how those we disliked in their playing careers have become popular. Smith is just a bit meh, we've never really hated him (the pantomime boos were just a bit of fun), but I can't see us ever really liking him either. Warner is just never going to be popular. Cummins could probably marry into the Royal Family if he wanted to (why would you?). Lyon seems like a decent bloke but with the ability to say something stupid and annoying (see last week).
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Same about Ponting, but you could never begrudge his grittiness. That innings at OT in 2005 one of the very best I've seen. It's interesting comparing to some of the current players and how those we disliked in their playing careers have become popular. Smith is just a bit meh, we've never really hated him (the pantomime boos were just a bit of fun), but I can't see us ever really liking him either. Warner is just never going to be popular. Cummins could probably marry into the Royal Family if he wanted to (why would you?). Lyon seems like a decent bloke but with the ability to say something stupid and annoying (see last week).
What about Carey?

Panto or genuine dislike/belief he cheated
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
I think he's largely been forgotten about already, we've moved on. Broad's probably not too far wrong with his assertion at the time that it's all he'll be remembered for (in this country anyway).
I'll remember him for costing us a very rare test win against us a couple of months although I blame our selectors more.
 

BazBall21

International Captain
I reckon we English loved Warne more than the Aussies tbh.....total respect for McGrath, less so for Waugh.......hated Ponting in his playing days but full respect for him now.
The English cricket media adored Warne, and I think the supporters couldn't help but like him too. I tend to experience quite a lot of England fans not liking Murali very much and I suspect some of that is because of the natural Warne comparison.

With McGrath, he wasn't as warm and captivating as Warne, but you couldn't not respect him. I was born in 2001 - I'd have hated him if I was born 10 years earlier!
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
The English cricket media adored Warne, and I think the supporters couldn't help but like him too. I tend to experience quite a lot of England fans not liking Murali very much and I suspect some of that is because of the natural Warne comparison.

With McGrath, he wasn't as warm and captivating as Warne, but you couldn't not respect him. I was born in 2001 - I'd have hated him if I was born 10 years earlier!
Wow..... I don't why but I always got the impression of your age to be closer to the likes of L&L and JBmac than me
 

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