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Debate thread for 2024 Ranking of batsmen poll

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Socerer 01

International Captain
Viv getting aura rated in this thread like Van Dijk does aura defending

cant wait for today’s gen and the ones growing up watching ABD and Kohli to claim in 10-20 years that they had big dick energy and deserve extra cookie points for it
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
kyear2 said:
I guess this is similar to our differing takes on Imran and similarly the away records.
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I would like to know your criteria for including Lara in that 6.

I think mine is clear. I pick the best bats of their eras with the highest in terms of reps. Not only that, Tendulkar/Hobbs/Viv/Sobers/Smith don't really have any notable weaknesses in terms of record or skills. They are all complete bats.

Lara fell second (admittedly close second) to Tendulkar in his era.

I don't think we would disagree massively though since Lara is right next for me after Smith and no.7 overall, despite all my critiques.

But I think Lara is more to contest with Hammond/Hutton, etc.
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
Socerer 01 said:
Viv getting aura rated in this thread like Van Dijk does aura defending

cant wait for today’s gen and the ones growing up watching ABD and Kohli to claim in 10-20 years that they had big dick energy and deserve extra cookie points for it
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We haven't watched Sobers and we haven't forgotten him, and no one who wanted Kohli or ABD though thinks they are the best..
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Socerer 01 said:
Viv getting aura rated in this thread like Van Dijk does aura defending

cant wait for today’s gen and the ones growing up watching ABD and Kohli to claim in 10-20 years that they had big dick energy and deserve extra cookie points for it
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Viv had the greatest batting peak ever and dominated more worldclass pacers than any other modern bat.
 
centurymaker

centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
@Line and Length, how are you currently treating random votes as well as votes where someone is already selected? Say for eg Bradman is already gone but in the next round someone votes-

Voges
Bradman
Sobers
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
subshakerz said:
I would like to know your criteria for including Lara in that 6.

I think mine is clear. I pick the best bats of their eras with the highest in terms of reps. Not only that, Tendulkar/Hobbs/Viv/Sobers/Smith don't really have any notable weaknesses in terms of record or skills. They are all complete bats.

Lara fell second (admittedly close second) to Tendulkar in his era.

I don't think we would disagree massively though since Lara is right next for me after Smith and no.7 overall, despite all my critiques.

But I think Lara is more to contest with Hammond/Hutton, etc.
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Best batsman over ever seen in real time and that includes Viv, Tendulkar and Smith. Peak Lara is the GOAT and there was a brilliance against him. He scored runs against three of the 5 best bowlers ever and may possibly be the best modern day player of spin.
Just because he didn't fall in an era by himself means he can't be among the greats? Maco and Paddles played together, I'm lost.

Sachin may be greater due to longevity but there's a valid argument for the Prince being better. They both struggled vs the same bowlers and Lara may have hit higher peaks vs the masters.
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
subshakerz said:
Gavaskar wasn't scoring at a SR of 70
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This crap again 8-)

centurymaker said:
@Line and Length, how are you currently treating random votes as well as votes where someone is already selected? Say for eg Bradman is already gone but in the next round someone votes-

Voges
Bradman
Sobers
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Probably ignore it considering there’s only one eligible player there.

Victor Ian said:
Yeah we do.

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Haven’t we had a bit of discussion re: posed photos of batsmen from this time?
 
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