Was WI ATG team overhyped?

[TheJediBrah]

this isnt the 1st time TJB has popped in and taken a driveby shot at whoever is opposing subs under the guise of neutrality, deep down i think he wants the drama to go on

I don't have to fap over fast bowling when every new subs v India crew argument gets me there quicker

 

[Socerer 01]

I don't have to fap over fast bowling when every new subs v India crew argument gets me there quicker

insert Cummins log cabin copypasta

 

[capt_Luffy]

No really, I can see how Australia can start as favourites in India, but I don't understand Subs reasoning for thinking Windies would.

 

[subshakerz]

Once again bringing Ashwin and Jadeja when you yourself said , you didn’t want to discuss the topic

I'm not going into it myself.

Why don’t you man up and say the exact problem? You don’t find problem with his posting style?
When Patience and accuracy + Gut , slifer and me had agreed that in case a series is played in IND , it would be extremely close guy comes and says that India has no chance against AUS /WI . You don’t find Problem in the way he frames his arguments?

All of this could be solved if you just agreed that WI pace bowlers would do well against ATG Indian bats regardless of who you think wins the series.

 

[subshakerz]

No really, I can see how Australia can start as favourites in India, but I don't understand Subs reasoning for thinking Windies would.

Because foreign pace wins series in India, and spinners have a support role at best.

 

[number11]

No really, I can see how Australia can start as favourites in India, but I don't understand Subs reasoning for thinking Windies would.

This is surely jest.

AT WI would start faves vs anyone IMHO.

 

[Socerer 01]

I'm not going into it myself.


All of this could be solved if you just agreed that WI pace bowlers would do well against ATG Indian bats regardless of who you think wins the series.

you think @Sunil1z is saying that those series would be extremely close without those pacers doing well???

 

[subshakerz]

you think @Sunil1z is saying that those series would be extremely close without those pacers doing well???

Your side seems to be suggesting that ATG WI wouldn't have the bowling firepower to win in India because you downplay or dismiss when I bring up previous cases of quality pace having done so.

 

[subshakerz]

This is surely jest.

AT WI would start faves vs anyone IMHO.

Someone rational, finally.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Because pace wins series in India, and spinners have a support role at best.

That's the reason India have never lost a series at home post 2012 then..... When Swann and Panesar won the series.

 

[capt_Luffy]

This is surely jest.

AT WI would start faves vs anyone IMHO.

Not against India in India.

 

[Sunil1z]

Not against India in India.

Or against AUS in AUS

 

[Socerer 01]

Your side seems to be suggesting that WI wouldn't have the bowling firepower to win in India.

and this is the problem with you. your agenda based posting always identifies it as “your side vs my side”, toxic tbh

Someone rational, finally.

just like here, someone who agrees with your pov instantly becomes rational because they agreed with you

 

[Sunil1z]

End this discussion. Guy won’t concede a point and we would be in endless loop of circular reason .

 

[subshakerz]

That's the reason India have never lost a series at home post 2012 then..... When Swann and Panesar won the series.

They haven't faced a pace attack of the quality of 80s WI, Donald/Pollock and McGrath/Gillespie so we don't know how they would do.

 

[capt_Luffy]

End this discussion. Guy won’t concede a point and we would be in endless loop of circular reason .

I don't really believe by any amount of mental gymnastics he could prove that ATG WI would win a series in India, that too without Gibbs.

 

[subshakerz]

End this discussion. Guy won’t concede a point and we would be in endless loop of circular reason .

Agreed. It's hard to get you guys to agreement on anything here despite several attempts at trying.

 

[Socerer 01]

End this discussion. Guy won’t concede a point and we would be in endless loop of circular reason .

its hilarious since this time ive been calling him out on every strawman and random tangent he’s been throwing and its making him even more flustered than usual

 

[subshakerz]

I don't really believe by any amount of mental gymnastics he could prove that ATG WI would win a series in India, that too without Gibbs.

Sadly to many of us here, your downplaying of ATG WI's prowess seems baffling. But lets just agree to disagree.

 

[capt_Luffy]

They haven't faced a pace attack of the quality of 80s WI, Donald/Pollock and McGrath/Gillespie so we don't know how they would do.

And no touring team pre 2012 have faced a decent, well balanced Indian bowling attack; ever. We didn't lose the 83 series because our batsmen failed us, but because we had shitty bowling.