Socerer 01
International Captain
you’ll just have a few people who grew up watching that side bash the other teams of that time and idolise them do that
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Was WI ATG team overhyped?
- Thread starter Sunil1z
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capt_Luffy
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I just want to see your reasoning behind your thought train, nothing else
Socerer 01
International Captain
“i dont think the pace quartet alone can win a test series in India against atg India”
subs: you’re insulting the pace quartet, the atgs with your biased takes!!! how dare you insult atgs like that!!!
Socerer 01
International Captain
his reasoning is that since they blew out 83 India, they will do the same to the atg side
like thats literally his reasoning, there’s nothing else either
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
I already gave you. But given you saying an ATG WI can't be mentally conceived of winning in India means a discussion is pointless.
Read those losing scorecards to see how the batting did.
subshakerz
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No, just that high quality pace can win series against good lineups in India.
capt_Luffy
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You literally used the 83 tour as the basis. The only batsman making into the ATG India team from that side was the highest scorer of that series, and Vengsarkar did pretty well himself. I am not saying "ATG WI can't win in India", I am saying claiming they will start as favourites needs some backing.
TheJediBrah
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Indian conditions when most teams tour just don't suit fast bowlers now though. Australia dropped Josh Hazlewood for Kuhnemann and Todd Murphy . . . Steve O'Keefe was more of a danger than Pat Cummins or Starc lol.
Socerer 01
International Captain
if by good lineups you mean 83, 2000 sides then sure ok buddy
capt_Luffy
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Given we have Kapil and Kumble doing some heavy lifting for our bowling attack as well.
Socerer 01
International Captain
its unbelievable how many times i keep pointing this out and everytime its the same argument of “no high quality pace muh high quality pace muh highhh” and “Holder took a 5fer in India”
Socerer 01
International Captain
this is what subs is conveniently ignoring since he wants the Indian fans to point this out and then talk about how Jadeja and Ashwin make a big difference
then he can weasel into the convo to continue dissing on those duo like always and if told that its what he always does he can turn around and point out that “but i didnt talk about them you see, it was those pesky biased Indian fans”
Cite the Indian XI.
subshakerz
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That's a fair point but those arent top drawer pacers (except for Cummins who had certain circumstances). Bumrah and Shami themselves have done well generally. However, for an ATG game we would need to cite the pitches.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Wait then why do you bring up Bumrah to me if pacers are a non issue?
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
You kind of did. You put it outside the realm of your mental possibility. Hence why we should disengage.
Socerer 01
International Captain
what
Socerer 01
International Captain
are we assuming others mental realms now to make strawmans?
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Let's just end it here. Further engagement is pointless.are we assuming others mental realms now to make strawmans?
The Indian bowlers weren't on the same level though. Things would be different if WI/SA/AUS were getting bowled out just like IND.