How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

[Socerer 01]

Yeah and Marshall won’t be supported by Holding, Garner and Andy Roberts . Or you think these last 3 guys aren’t comparable to Ashwin/ Jadeja .

dude there is a big difference between a spinner bowling on spin assisting decks and pace bowlers bowling on them

do i have to really explain this?????

 

[Sunil1z]

Unless they want to be ready for broken f***** arms & legs they wouldn't make those dodgy pitches against WI four quicks, against Oz they could get away with it on occasions.

They made lottery pitch in WC final . This coward team management will definitely make lottery pitch .

 

[Socerer 01]

They made lottery pitch in WC final . This coward team management will definitely make lottery pitch .

they didnt do so despite everyone and their mother claiming they will do it to try and counter bazball in this series

we’re going in circles atm

 

[PlayerComparisons]

So in series against WI and Aus they won't play lottery pitches?

I don’t think lottery pitches have been that common in India. We should assume this series is being played on balanced pitches.

 

[Socerer 01]

I don’t think lottery pitches have been that common in India. We should assume this series is being played on balanced pitches.

the way subs talks you would think there are 30 spinners averaging below 30 in India since 2013 and not just 9 of them

 

[Sunil1z]

dude there is a big difference between a spinner bowling on spin assisting decks and pace bowlers bowling on them

do i have to really explain this?????

And I am telling you Great fast bowlers don’t depend on pitch .
I can’t believe I am arguing against my own side . We might beat WI 2-1 but we aren’t thrashing them 3-0 or 3-1 which you believe .

 

[subshakerz]

You are way underestimating WI pace attack .
If Gillespie, Donald and Pollock can win Test series in IND then so can Marshall, Holding and Garner.

You are forgetting that Bumrah , Shami and Umesh average in low 20s in IND . Then WI pace attack can also demolish our batting line up .

They are also forgetting the standard of attacks and opposition that India faced in this time.

 

[Sunil1z]

they didnt do so despite everyone and their mother claiming they will do it to try and counter bazball in this series

we’re going in circles atm

Are you comparing Bazball to WI side of 80s ?
This England side can’t beat even Aus at home and they are comparable to WI of 80 s .

 

[Xix2565]

They are also forgetting the standard of attacks and opposition that India faced in this time.

You seem to forget the same for the past sides as well.

 

[subshakerz]

You don’t need spinners to do well in IND if you have Marshall, Holding and Garner . Isn’t Bumrah averaging around 15 in current England series when pitches are flat or moderate spin friendly . Why do you think that Marshall/ Holding/ Garner can’t replicate Bumrah ?

They can and they will. The only way India can neutralise then is to prepare dead pitches. Knowing the curators, they may prepare three dead tracks and one rank turner.

 

[Sunil1z]

They are also forgetting the standard of attacks and opposition that India faced in this time.

Aus side in 2017 and 2023 have been extremely good tbh . Smith is better batsman than any player of Aus 00-07 and WI of 80s .

 

[Xix2565]

It's a shame some posters don't enjoy being honest and clear about all the details, and would rather whinge and moan their way into a consensus rather than properly discuss what could happen.

 

[subshakerz]

I don’t think lottery pitches have been that common in India. We should assume this series is being played on balanced pitches.

Balanced pitches means an almost certain victory for WI and Aus.

 

[subshakerz]

Aus side in 2017 and 2023 have been extremely good tbh . Smith is better batsman than any player of Aus 00-07 and WI of 80s .

He is one bat not an entire lineup.

 

[Sunil1z]

They can and they will. The only way India can neutralise then is to prepare dead pitches. Knowing the curators, they may prepare three dead tracks and one rank turner.

Dead pitches benefit IND tbh . And I would also do the same if I was in BCCI . Tire them in first 2 Test and then make spin friendly in last 2 .

 

[Xix2565]

Balanced pitches means WI and Aus get smashed, because they're playing against an actual team rather than hopeless nobodies and one-hit wonders who needed cheating umpires and dodgy wickets to match them.

 

[Sunil1z]

He is one bat not an entire lineup.

Khwaja was also very good . And so was Labu . You are underestimating Aus Test team . They aren’t perfect but they are very good Test side .

 

[subshakerz]

You seem to forget the same for the past sides as well.

They were far better tested.

 

[Sunil1z]

Ok I am tired now . Everyone is free to believe what they believe. I believe that we might edge both series 2-1 but won’t be surprised if other side also win 2-1 . No one is demolishing one another .

 

[subshakerz]

Balanced pitches means WI and Aus get smashed, because they're playing against an actual team rather than hopeless nobodies and one-hit wonders who needed cheating umpires and dodgy wickets to match them.

Balanced pitches means the superiority of Aus and WI batting and all-round bowling will eventually shine through as the series goes along.