*Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

[honestbharani]

I really notice that a lot of these younger batsmen have a problem with tempo. They either go way too hard or they become really passive. It's actually the one thing you notice the most with the truly great batsmen; they have absolute mastery of tempo and can change it at will.

This is why bazball works so well. It takes the guesswork out and just dictates the tempo to you so you have clarity of thought.

I often think Bazball is basically taking it ball by ball literally. Be aware of the field, the pitch, the conditions and the state of the ball etc. but if you feel there is a ball you can play a shot to, and a potential boundary, go for it. And if you feel you have more chances by playing a forceful shot than just defending pointlessly, then go for that too.

I dont think its brainless as its made out to be, except for the times they did let themselves get carried away by that philosophy, but at its core its basically the SehWAG thing of see ball, hit ball.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Also yay, we picked 5 bowlers, so our batting lineup effectively ends at 4 down and no Jadeja to bail us out . Intentionally sabotage a poor batting lineup even further. Good job, think-tank.

 

[Andyhere]

Ball not turning, use your feet and put off these inexperienced bolwers.

 

[Zinzan]

India win the toss and level the series 1-1....... (waits for OS to reply saying the advantage of batting first in India is a myth)

 

[BazBall21]

Very inexperienced batting lineup at test level outside the big fish who's gone.

 

[Calm_profit]

You are not Rahul David in disguise are you?

His job is to keep and not everyone can't be Gilchrist or Pant

 

[Andyhere]

Also yay, we picked 5 bowlers, so our batting lineup effectively ends at 4 down and no Jadeja to bail us out . Intentionally sabotage a poor batting lineup even further. Good job, think-tank.

Yea, Mukesh could end up being an useless baggage considering the conditions. Sunder should've been picked instead of Mukesh!

 

[Shady Slim]

who's patidar and why's he in rather than SK? and why is mukesh a thing also

 

[Andyhere]

Very inexperienced batting lineup at test level outside the big fish who's gone.

Pretty experienced in these conditions though. Loads of runs on similar tracks and similar bowlers in domestic ranji trophy

 

[OverratedSanity]

Im ok with it as long as he is keeping well

Good thing he doesn't even keep well

 

[Spark]

This has felt like a pretty dicey innings by Jaiswal. Hit the ball in the air near fielders three or four times now.

 

[ataraxia]

who's patidar and why's he in rather than SK? and why is mukesh a thing also

Yes

 

[OverratedSanity]

Very inexperienced batting lineup at test level outside the big fish who's gone.

Around 30 tests between the other specialist batsmen. Completely insane. I know they've been backed into a corner because of the numerous injuries but still.

 

[Andyhere]

who's patidar and why's he in rather than SK? and why is mukesh a thing also

Because he was picked in the original squad he gets the first chance. Sarfaraz was just added due to Rahul's injury. Lame thinking by idiotic management and coach.

 

[Calm_profit]

Problem w

Good thing he doesn't even keep well

Lets hope that he keeps well

 

[Spark]

I often think Bazball is basically taking it ball by ball literally. Be aware of the field, the pitch, the conditions and the state of the ball etc. but if you feel there is a ball you can play a shot to, and a potential boundary, go for it. And if you feel you have more chances by playing a forceful shot than just defending pointlessly, then go for that too.

I dont think its brainless as its made out to be, except for the times they did let themselves get carried away by that philosophy, but at its core its basically the SehWAG thing of see ball, hit ball.

Yeah, and I think it's a realisation that, well, batting is hard and very complicated. There are so many things you have to be aware of and so much you have to decide and react to in about 0.5 seconds that clearing out the mental gunk as much as possible and simplifying the process can only really help in most circumstances. Unless you're a batting savant a la Steve Smith who can galaxy brain your way to modifying your whole game on the fly, the vast majority of talented batsmen will be best served by just playing instinctively.

 

[Daemon]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/patidar-vs-sarfaraz-takes-centre-stage-at-india-nets-1419092

Two takeaways from this

- India might be spooked. They’re focusing on the sweep (both bowling to and playing it). Probably a good thing.
- Patidar is likely to get the nod along with Kuldeep

On this, I forgot that all 3 of the spinners are tall. May not be the wisest thing to sweep them.

 

[BazBall21]

Around 30 tests between the other specialist batsmen. Completely insane. I know they've been backed into a corner because of the numerous injuries but still.

Would you have begrudgingly gone back to CP? Tbf it ironically doesn't help that India holding onto Pujara/Rahane probably a bit too long (latter in particular) has contributed to the transition being stifled.

 

[Andyhere]

Around 30 tests between the other specialist batsmen. Completely insane. I know they've been backed into a corner because of the numerous injuries but still.

No it's not injuries, it's the idiot team management and selectors. Pujara is available and scoring loads in domestic. Rahane is available too. When you know you are shot in experience why would you pick patidar when kohli was out out for the 1st 2 tests.
Pujara should've been selected right there and then.

 

[Spark]

Would you have begrudgingly gone back to CP? Tbf it ironically doesn't help that India holding onto Pujara/Rahane probably a bit too long (latter in particular) has contributed to the transition being stifled.

I believe he got injured during the most recent Ranji game.