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This is a hideous argument and you should stop making it.We should start from banning ENG first for not allowing Russian athletes in 2022 .
This is a hideous argument and you should stop making it.We should start from banning ENG first for not allowing Russian athletes in 2022 .
Why ? Western Countries have problem from Russia . So they have got the country banned in Olympics.This is a hideous argument and you should stop making it.
There was terrorist attacks in London 2005. Pakistan played cricket at Lords/Oval the next year.Didn't realize the country of birth of Basil D'Oliveira's parents orchestrated a terrorist event killing 100s 15 years before in RSA.
I love how offhand @Ashes81 s comment about this is. Its almost like a privileged westerner who has no idea of what it is to be a victim of a terrorist attack lecuturing others on how immigration policies should be handled is not a good look.
Now, to engage the actual issue at hand, I have not read The Guardian's account but going by past experience I dont expect it to be neutral or factual. If ECB did ask BCCI and BCCI could not get the required evidences to speed up this process, then yes, I think we should blame the BCCI. But I would want better evidence than just The Guardian's reports to believe it.
And if the BCCI did present what was required and the Government still did not act faster, then it is definitely the Government's fault. But, its a lot of ifs so far.
Are you seriously comparing the attacks in London to what happened in Mumbai?There was terrorist attacks in London around the same time, Pakistan played cricket at Lords the next year.
Firstly, Britain is not only not denying visas to Russian citizens, Russian citizens don't even need a visa to enter the UK at all. So that direct comparison falls apart immediately. Russian athletes are still allowed to compete in UK-hosted sporting events and international sporting events like Wimbledon and the Olympics, it's just representations of the Russian state - namely, the flag and anthem - which are banned. Not to mention that the actual proximate reason was nothing to do with the war in Ukraine at all but, you know, the massive, systemic state-backed program of drug cheating across the entire Russian elite sporting apparatus.Why ? Western Countries have problem from Russia . So they have got the country banned in Olympics.
Whereas we have problem with Pakistan and so we give them visa after following a strict procedure.
I see both sets of country are mixing sports with politics
Edited my post to include actual attack I meant, thought it was later than that(I was 12 when the attacks occurred).Are you seriously comparing the attacks in London to what happened in Mumbai?
And when did you have terrorist attacks in London in 2008?
Sunilz and HB engaged in whataboutery hard not to get drawn into it. But yes completely agreed.Holy **** don't compare terrorist attacks to each other you insane people
Do you even read the post before you responded to it? I was talking about the process around visas. And pointed out the absolute idiocy of @Ashes81 s post pooh-poohing heinous terrorist attacks. Just because I responded to your post as well, doesn't mean every point in the post is about you. I clearly mentioned the posters' name that I was responding to.Sunilz and HB engaged in whataboutery hard not to get drawn into it. But yes completely agreed.
Not gonna argue the rest of your post but you are very wrong if you think there have been no terrorist attacks since 2008 in India.Most importantly though, the "bans" - which are nothing of the sort - are being maintained because of the war that is going on now. And killing civilians now. Not because of what happened 15 years ago.
"Its almost like a privileged westerner who has no idea of what it is to be a victim of a terrorist attack lecuturing others on how immigration policies should be handled is not a good look."Do you even read the post before you responded to it? I was talking about the process around visas. And pointed out the absolute idiocy of @Ashes81 s post pooh-poohing heinous terrorist attacks. Just because I responded to your post as well, doesn't mean every point in the post is about you. I clearly mentioned the posters' name that I was responding to.
Stop with the condescension and accept this is an issue you have ****ing idea about and just talk cricket.
And IND is also not denying visa to Pak origin people. He will be available from 2nd Test . ECB should have known the rules better . Visa has already been approved. It just needs a stamp in the passport .Firstly, Britain is not only not denying visas to Russian citizens, Russian citizens don't even need a visa to enter the UK at all. So that direct comparison falls apart immediately. Russian athletes are still allowed to compete in UK-hosted sporting events and international sporting events like Wimbledon and the Olympics, it's just representations of the Russian state - namely, the flag and anthem - which are banned. Not to mention that the actual proximate reason was nothing to do with the war in Ukraine at all but, you know, the massive, systemic state-backed program of drug cheating across the entire Russian elite sporting apparatus.
Most importantly though, the "bans" - which are nothing of the sort - are being maintained because of the war that is going on now. And killing civilians now. Not because of what happened 15 years ago.
Nah, it defines exactly what a few posters have been posting here, including you."Its almost like a privileged westerner who has no idea of what it is to be a victim of a terrorist attack lecuturing others on how immigration policies should be handled is not a good look."
You said this mate when it's a pile of crap.
Yeah having 1 terrorist attack 18 years ago is remotely comparable to having terrorist accident every 6 months ."Its almost like a privileged westerner who has no idea of what it is to be a victim of a terrorist attack lecuturing others on how immigration policies should be handled is not a good look."
You said this mate when it's not the case.
Yes I am not fully abreast of what has happened since the Mumbai attacks.Nah, it defines exactly what a few posters have been posting here, including you.
It's going to be horrendous. Can't waitLovely start to the tour