What on earth makes you believe that guys like guys like Kunderan, Contractor, Roy, Nadarkarni, Gopinath are averaging anything over 15 facing Grimmett? Their faces would be worth looking when Grum bowls The Flipper.
Given that pretty much Simpson average 28, I think it's safe to say that batting line-up Benaud faced won't be too comfortable against Grimmett..... Like, ofcourse most spinners aren't successful in India, but the ones who are, are from mostly the 50s and 60s like Illingworth, Mallet and Titmus, who I think are pretty much universally worse than Warne, Murali or even Qadir.
Verity averaged like 16 as well with like 8 wicket a match in his 3 matches.
There's no real issue with that. The issue is P & A+G's grimmett fanfiction.
could be.
Bob Simpson? Bowled exclusively leggies as far as I was aware
That wasn't the only shitty Indian team, but that was certainly one of the shittiest..... Also, except Warne and Qadir, I can't think of any other Great leggie to be a huge disappointment as well. Tbh, given his record in England, West Indies and even Australia; I can't really see how possibly he could average anything under 35 bowling to a Tendulkar or a Gavaskar.
You can make a list of leggies and check their record against India.
None of this makes sense to me! These numbers conjured by you are quite random and don't mean anything.
I am not P&A+G; I am not throwing around numbers, I just said Benaud only performed well against a bad team, among India's worst. Rating him highly for that doesn't makes series. It's like rating Merchant the highest after Bradman due to his FC average, not taking the opposition bowling into context.... Also, Imran Tahir averages 21 in India.
O’Reilly and Grimmett ofc never toured India. Benaud was the finest Leggie to tour India before their batting was anything over Australia’s F.C standard. He got to bowl to Bums and cashed in. You seriously believe Grimmett is getting destroyed by Kunderan, Contractor, Roy, Nadarkarni, Gopinath?
Grimmett’s effort in SA 1935/36 deserves 10 times the mention than what Benaud did in India. Grum actually bowled to a legit batting line-up in Nourse, Mitchell, Rowan, Vijolean, Cameron in flat decks.
In Benaud's defence, Polly Umrigar and Vijay Manjrekar were better batsmen than Kenneth Viljoen or even probably Jock Cameron..... Nari Contractor, Pankaj Roy and Vinoo Mankad were also fine players of spin, but seriously; that still was among India's worst batting line-ups and you just can't compare that batting line-up to what Warne or Qadir bowled to. See, I certainly do rate Clarrie Grimmett much higher as a bowler than Richie Benaud, but I wasn't arguing over that; not even that Benaud's record in India is void completely; just that it's totally unreasonable to compare his record with that of Warne and Qadir.
Yeah he didn't have the wood over Nourse but he dominated the rest of them. I feel he's a tad overrated compared to Verity but he's still a great spinner. I don't think the side needs the extra batting offered by Benaud.
Yeah, completely agree. I also think that shaka zulu was a phony general. He got to cash in vs a bunch of unprepared british troops who where barely colonial standard. Genghis khan and the Mahmud of Ghazni never got to tour africa, and actually faced legit challenges in conquering asia from the likes of the Mamluk Sultan Baibars. If genghas khan was in zulu's situation he would have conquered 90% of the known world.