Athlai
Not Terrible
Turning pitch. Pretty decent spin attack.KW minnow bashing again today
Definitely wont count tho
Turning pitch. Pretty decent spin attack.KW minnow bashing again today
See..... The truth is all three have struggled overseas against some strong opponent. Root against Australia (35 avg, no century, 14 games) and Pakistan (25 avg, 3 games); and Virat against England (33 avg, 17 games; actually had one great tour, but the others were awful) and New Zealand (36 avg, 4 games). But they atleast have good averages in some strong countries as well; like Virat in Australia (54) and South Africa (51); and Root in India (50), New Zealand (52) and South Africa (50). Kane's average in any top tier country except Australia (42) is bad. He averages 30 in England, 33 in India and 26 in South Africa. I am not saying he's the worst here for that reason; just his away record is really bad, except against Pakistan and Australia.Turning pitch. Pretty decent spin attack.
Definitely wont count tho
I swear I'm not doing this to hate, but the vast majority of Kane's big away runs have come on roads (like Australia 2015 and the recent Pakistan tour). Runs on flat tracks absolutely count ftr. But I don't think it's unfair to say Root and maybe even kohli (who's not as good as him) have had many more impressive innings overseas on tough decks.
His best performances have been the WTC final and that tour of uae that NZ won. He's not consistently batted like an ATG outside of that.
Playing Test Cricket before the age of 23 isn't guaranteed to be a struggle as a batsman .Its nearly a third of his matches played!
This isn't true. As I said in the bangers thread they are 3 of the most valuable players in the world in a very bowler dominant era.Kohli and Root are excellent players but Williamson is just a level above lol. He could be averaging 57+ after the SA series
Fair enough although he is clearly #2 for me with his recent form over the last 3 years. It is a very hard era. I think they’d all have better away records if they played in the 2000sThis isn't true. As I said in the bangers thread they are 3 of the most valuable players in the world in a very bowler dominant era.
Insane cricketers. Look at batting stats since 2018 lol they're twice as valuable as the average bat. Then there's Smith on his own level..
In all honesty, by the time they retire, it's very much possible of them to widely improve their away records. Root just need some more runs in Australia and Pakistan, Virat in England and New Zealand, and well, Kane really need some great serieses in India, England and South Africa.....Fair enough although he is clearly #2 for me with his recent form over the last 3 years. It is a very hard era. I think they’d all have better away records if they played in the 2000s
Probably now, while viewers are still getting used to the current state of the game, but once the dust settles the handful of dudes with 45+ averages through this era are gonna be highly appreciated imo.Pretty weird how if one of them ends up averaging 48/49 after a long career, they’ll be viewed as ATVG by most people
The premise is to just rank them though isn't it? Don't think it's calling into question their ATG status.Yeah the entire premise of this thread is crazy to me. Given that that they've all put together long Test careers in a particularly bowler-friendly era with averages essentially equal to 50 is clearly ATG standard.
The OP definitely does.The premise is to just rank them though isn't it? Don't think it's calling into question their ATG status.
Nah he was kidding, I think he said that earlier in the threadThe OP definitely does.