2023-24 Australian domestic cricket season

[TheJediBrah]

Yeah mystifying why curators love greentops so much at the domestic level. It’s the worst kind of pitch to develop players.

Funny 5 years ago the conversation was the opposite. Too many roads being bad at developing players. Where is the happy medium

 

[ataraxia]

Where is the happy medium

Everywhere now, what with these green pitches

 

[morgieb]

Funny 5 years ago the conversation was the opposite. Too many roads being bad at developing players. Where is the happy medium

At domestic level, though?

tbh think the best fit is fast/hard decks for Australia. Flat enough that batsmen learn to score big runs but still enough there for good bowlers to make breakthroughs.

Variety is extremely important, though.

 

[Qlder]

Qld has top 4 of Renshaw, Burns, Labushagne and Khawaja with Peirson and Neser in great form as well. Can't help but laugh at NSW batting line-up in comparison

 

[TheJediBrah]

At domestic level, though?

tbh think the best fit is fast/hard decks for Australia. Flat enough that batsmen learn to score big runs but still enough there for good bowlers to make breakthroughs.

Variety is extremely important, though.

Yeah even at domestic level wickets were too flat. A lot were blaming that on why guys like Harris and Bancroft were coming through having feasted on roads (especially with Junction/MCG and Perth being 2 of the flatter wickets). Also Karen Rolton was horribly flat.

 

[Spark]

Roads are better than greentops for developing players IMO. Forces good bowlers to earn their wickets and makes batsmen learn how to bat long periods of time. Obviously there's a balance but I'd rather err on the flatter side at Shield level.

 

[Gnske]

I for one think its a great thing that guys like Larry Neil-Smith can bowl at teenagers and young men with high estrogen levels and take absolute HAULS

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Yeah flat pitches aren't great, but those not quite Test standard making runs is preferable to nobody making runs at all. Absolutely there are too many greentops at Shield level


Also, Lyon at 8 WTF

 

[Magrat Garlick]

I for one think its a great thing that guys like Larry Neil-Smith can bowl at teenagers and young men with high estrogen levels and take absolute HAULS

i know it's gnske but still wtf

 

[Gnske]

i know it's gnske but still wtf

Do yourself a favour and don't look at TJB's post history. You'll have a better stroke on offer than most of the estrogen fuelled young batsmen in the Shield.

 

[social]

One of the issues facing Australian cricket is that many batsmen have terrible techniques designed for power hitting (stay legside of ball, free arms, etc)

That’s okay if you have an eye like Dirty Sanchez Trav but most are sitting ducks when there’s any movement around

Pitch preparation has to be a happy medium where teams aren’t made to look like NSW every innings while also having runs mean something

 

[Gnske]

On the plus side, Davies just strung together a four streak of 50 + scores.

Easily impressed these days.

 

[social]

Yeah flat pitches aren't great, but those not quite Test standard making runs is preferable to nobody making runs at all. Absolutely there are too many greentops at Shield level


Also, Lyon at 8 WTF

Solid 6 from the goat

 

[social]

Calling BS

Seen this movie before

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1729387367084200220

 

[TheJediBrah]

Do yourself a favour and don't look at TJB's post history. You'll have a better stroke on offer than most of the estrogen fuelled young batsmen in the Shield.

I have it on good authority that soy consumption in NSW is at an all-time high and most of the young batsmen coming through were raised by single mothers

 

[Gnske]

Congraulations to Sam Harper for making his one score for the next two seasons

Why'd he have to do it like that though

 

[TheJediBrah]

Harsh of him to make Alex Carey watch him take away his Test spot right in front of his eyes

 

[morgieb]

On the plus side, Davies just strung together a four streak of 50 + scores.

Easily impressed these days.

Haha, quite. But that he's gotten past 50 in all four of his FC innings is a promising sign. In terms of raw talent he's a class above most of the others on our team (or coming through the system), just a matter of whether his technique can hold up at Test level.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Haha, quite. But that he's gotten past 50 in all four of his FC innings is a promising sign. In terms of raw talent he's a class above most of the others on our team (or coming through the system), just a matter of whether his technique can hold up at Test level.

He's got some similarities with Travis Head, ie. staying leg side of the ball and relying on hands. If anything looks a more classical technique than Head, and you wouldn't say Head's technique looks like it should hold up at Test level

 

[Spark]

Can hardly complain about 350-odd runs in your first seven digs at the level, especially given the shower of a side he's batting in. He'd want to bat higher than 6 if he wants to be taken seriously, though.