Find a better bowler peak (min 33 Tests) than this (protip, you can't)

[TheJediBrah]

Entertainment is more about time rather than balls.

I don't know about that. Watching peak West Indian fast bowlers run in all day at 10 overs an hour is a **** load more entertaining that a watching a part-time finger spinner zoot through 20

 

[shortpitched713]

Getting into strike rate, when Murali bowled his overs he might have been taking his wickets at a quicker rate per time. How long did waqar take to bowl an over? How long did Murali take?
Entertainment is more about time rather than balls.

Better argument for Murali might be WPM.
Don't think wickets per unit time is that important of a measure for helping one's team, honestly.

 

[Coronis]

I don't know about that. Watching peak West Indian fast bowlers run in all day at 10 overs an hour is a **** load more entertaining that a watching a part-time finger spinner zoot through 20

I’d rather sit and watch a marathon than guys running 20 meters with a 5 min break between each run.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

I’d rather sit and watch a marathon than guys running 20 meters with a 5 min break between each run.

Thank god you don't watch Test cricket then.

 

[Coronis]

Thank god you don't watch Test cricket then.

Sorry, to clarify, I meant compared with spinners.

 

[Burgey]

I’d rather sit and watch a marathon than guys running 20 meters with a 5 min break between each run.

And I'd rather sh!t in my own hands and clap than watch finger spinners bowl all day. Each to their own I suppose.

 

[Coronis]

And I'd rather sh!t in my own hands and clap than watch finger spinners bowl all day. Each to their own I suppose.

I mean, thats a more regular occurrence for blokes your age than test matches are.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Sorry, to clarify, I meant compared with spinners.

Still it's not clear whether you prefer watching marathon over spinners or watching spinners over fast bowlers

 

[Coronis]

Still it's not clear whether you prefer watching marathon over spinners or watching spinners over fast bowlers

Spinners > marathon > quicks

 

[TheJediBrah]

Better argument for Murali might be WPM.
Don't think wickets per unit time is that important of a measure for helping one's team, honestly.

WPM is a terrible argument for Murali, given the percentage of his team's overs that he bowled. Just stick with average and strike rate

 

[mr_mister]

I mean, thats a more regular occurrence for blokes your age than test matches are.

*random Sopranos character voice"


Ooooh!

 

[BazBall21]

It’s crazy impressive the numbers Imran was putting up at home on flat Pakistani pitches

Rate him as the No1 slow flat pitch bowler of all time. Genius.

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

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I'd probably take Waqar's superior strike rate here, but it's definitely very comparable.

Hadlee's peak using your criteria is 33 Tests , Waqar Younis' peak is 33 Tests.
Despite Waqar Younis having a better Strike Rate ,Hadlee still took 1 more wicket in the same peak, at a better average and economy.

In terms of fifers , Waqar Younis got 19 , Hadlee also got 19 5-fors BUT Hadlee got 9 10-wicket hauls compared to Waqar Younis' 4 10-wicket hauls ..

In terms of opposition it's not even close , let me make an XI of players Hadlee got out atleast twice in his 4 year peak :

1.Gordon Greenidge
2.Graeme Gooch
3.Viv Richards
4.Javed Miandad
5.Zaheer Abbas
6.Allan Border
7.Jeffrey Dujon (WK)
8.Kapil Dev
9.Abdul Qadir
10.Joel Garner
11.Bob Willis

 

[BazBall21]

Marshall 1983-1986 and 1984-1988 was pretty handy. Thunderous WPM, Average and SR. Dominant against all opposition and both home+away. No minnow bashing too.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Hadlee's peak using your criteria is 33 Tests , Waqar Younis' peak is 33 Tests.
Despite Waqar Younis having a better Strike Rate ,Hadlee still took 1 more wicket in the same peak, at a better average and economy.

In terms of fifers , Waqar Younis got 19 , Hadlee also got 19 5-fors BUT Hadlee got 9 10-wicket hauls compared to Waqar Younis' 4 10-wicket hauls ..

In terms of opposition it's not even close , let me make an XI of players Hadlee got out atleast twice in his 4 year peak :

1.Gordon Greenidge
2.Graeme Gooch
3.Viv Richards
4.Javed Miandad
5.Zaheer Abbas
6.Allan Border
7.Jeffrey Dujon (WK)
8.Kapil Dev
9.Abdul Qadir
10.Joel Garner
11.Bob Willis

He had less competition tho.

 

[Victor Ian]

So let's say in a session, waqar bowls 6 overs. You sit through a session an watch one wicket fall.
But Murali would bowl 12 where you would see 1 and a bit fall. Murali strikes at a better rate. Murali gets the opposition out quicker.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

So let's say in a session, waqar bowls 6 overs. You sit through a session an watch one wicket fall.
But Murali would bowl 12 where you would see 1 and a bit fall. Murali strikes at a better rate. Murali gets the opposition out quicker.

But can Murali bowl 150 kph inswing yorkers?

 

[ataraxia]

But can Murali bowl 150 kph inswing yorkers?

He's no Shahid Afridi, that's for sure.

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

He had less competition tho.

He also had a bigger reputation, so batsmen would try to see him off and pick off the rest . That can also make it harder to pick up wickets at regular intervals but he was just too good for that not to happen.

 

[silentstriker]

Akram from 1990-1997 also averaged something like 20 with a strike rate in mid 40s.