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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
I'd still have Lindwall and Davidson ahead of Cummins even before their superior batting is taken into account.
kyear2
International Coach
Fair enough, was just spit balling
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Jadeja is only ATG worthy on dustbowls. And his record away is extremely iffy. Kapil record against 80s WI is great. Murali as spinner is enough. And in subcontinent other bowlers have great record so other spinners are not needed.
If not Barnes then Laker. He is a better spinner than Tayfield.
Patience and Accuracy+Gut
State Vice-Captain
Australia’s ATG Xi (Switched Bradman)
1st Xi
Trumper
Hayden
Ponting
Smith
Chappell
Border*
Gilchrist+
Miller
O’Reilly
Lillee
McGrath
2nd Xi
Simpson
Morris
Bradman*
Harvey
Waugh
McCabe
Davidson
Lindwall
Tallon+
Warne
Cummins
1st Xi
Trumper
Hayden
Ponting
Smith
Chappell
Border*
Gilchrist+
Miller
O’Reilly
Lillee
McGrath
2nd Xi
Simpson
Morris
Bradman*
Harvey
Waugh
McCabe
Davidson
Lindwall
Tallon+
Warne
Cummins
Australia v England Timeless Tests in Australia when Bradman was playing.
England won 8, Australia 5. At one point it was 8-2, then Australia won the last three.
Bradman averaged 72 in these matches, Hammond 65. Add the two games in these series Bradman missed and Hammond's average rises to 75.
Hammond also took 26 wickets in these three series at an average of 33.
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Coronis
International Coach
Miller doesn’t really fit with that team. Bowling is weakened too much.
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
This is the exact bowling attack I go for too.
Actually only thing I'd change for sure is Sachin over Smith at #4. Richards is in a pack of candidates I struggle to split for #5 so this is virtually the team I'd pick.
TheJediBrah
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Miller lead the attack at times, bowling 20+ overs a day when he had to. Just didn't do it often
Coronis
International Coach
When your other options are Lindwall and Davidson though I don’t think his extra batting justifies him a spot there.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Which team is strongest? (Yes, I admit there are many 50/50 calls in these teams.)
Debuted before South Africa's expulsion (1970) - sans Bradman
Hutton (c)
Hobbs
Hammond
Headley
Pollock
Sobers
Miller
Knott
Trueman
O'Reilly
Barnes
Debuted between 1970 and SA's 1st test back
Gavaskar
Greenidge
Richards
Tendulkar
Lara
Imran (c)
Healy
Hadlee
Wasim
Marshall
Warne
Debuted post SA's return
Smith
Sehwag
Ponting (c)
Sangakkara
Kallis
Smith
Gilchrist
Pollock
Steyn
Murali
McGrath
Debuted before South Africa's expulsion (1970) - sans Bradman
Hutton (c)
Hobbs
Hammond
Headley
Pollock
Sobers
Miller
Knott
Trueman
O'Reilly
Barnes
Debuted between 1970 and SA's 1st test back
Gavaskar
Greenidge
Richards
Tendulkar
Lara
Imran (c)
Healy
Hadlee
Wasim
Marshall
Warne
Debuted post SA's return
Smith
Sehwag
Ponting (c)
Sangakkara
Kallis
Smith
Gilchrist
Pollock
Steyn
Murali
McGrath
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shortpitched713
International Captain
How is Lara in 2 of these teams? Also, would have Hayden in the last one, but otherwise great teams.
_00_deathscar
International Regular
Don’t lie - he transcended eras. You’d have him in every team.How is Lara in 2 of these teams? Also, would have Hayden in the last one, but otherwise great teams.
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
Low rated players with ATG records XI
Hashim Amla
Alastair Cook/Rohit Sharma
Ken Barrington
Jacques Kallis
Kumar Sangakkara/Andy Flower (wk)
Adam Voges
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Ravindra Jadeja
Kapil Dev
Courtney Walsh
James Anderson
Hashim Amla
Alastair Cook/Rohit Sharma
Ken Barrington
Jacques Kallis
Kumar Sangakkara/Andy Flower (wk)
Adam Voges
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Ravindra Jadeja
Kapil Dev
Courtney Walsh
James Anderson
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You're picking Flower as a keeper just to bait me aren't you
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
Ha ha yeah partly. It is also because he is never selected as a keeper in CW ATG teams though he has an ATG record.
Coronis
International Coach
ENG ATXI
Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Hutton*
Hammond
Root
Barrington
Botham
Knott+
Trueman
Anderson
Barnes
Probably the XI I’m least certain of rn… unsure if I have enough bowling and ya know Barnes is tricky to define. If I were to add another bowler I’d take out Root. Have to give the new ball to Barnes and Trueman otherwise Barnes will sulk.
Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Hutton*
Hammond
Root
Barrington
Botham
Knott+
Trueman
Anderson
Barnes
Probably the XI I’m least certain of rn… unsure if I have enough bowling and ya know Barnes is tricky to define. If I were to add another bowler I’d take out Root. Have to give the new ball to Barnes and Trueman otherwise Barnes will sulk.
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
Pietersen should be at 5 instead of making everyone bat out of position.
Hobbs
Hutton
Hammond
Root
Pietersen
Botham
Knott
Laker
Trueman
Anderson
Barnes
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Coronis
International Coach
Nah batting positions are never set and Pietersen is a significant downgrade in quality from any of the players I currently have.
Also seriously? Swann over Laker, Verity and Underwood?
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
Changed to Laker now. Yeah Agree with you that all those 3 are superior.
But I am not an admirer of people forcefitting players to other positions. We have seen quite a few times in real cricket of people failing while playing out of position.