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Ravichandran Ashwin vs Pat Cummins

Who is the better test bowler?


  • Total voters
    36

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
The reason people comment about you is the fact that you are so biased and dense that you wont see reality and yet you keep spamming the same nonsense post after post, thread after thread.

I get it. You cant stomach India or Indians doing well. There are many Indians who feel that way about the Pak cricket side. And I am sure there are many other Pakistanis who feel that way about the Indian side. But its when you keep harping on obviously biased lies in order to prove it as some sort of fact, that you get on everyone's nerves.

You dont think Ashwin is an ATG. Great, dont bloody post it every minute here. You have said it once, we have pointed out why it is a biased and false take. Leave it and move on.

Your post-facto backing of other players whom you only big up to pull down *insert Indian cricketer here* is just beyond hopelessly funny now too. It is annoyingly sad.
Ah yes the bias card. Whereas on the other hand certain posters call me Indian and bash me for my Indian bias. More knowledge posters here acknowledge that I am not biased even if they rigorously disagree with my takes. I am equal opportunity in who I critique.

I only keeping posting as a response when others challenge my point. Y'know, kinda what you are supposed to do on this thread.
 

Slifer

International Captain
Having just glanced at his stats, Ashwin is certainly a great. But atg ie in the same league as Murali, Warne and O'Reilly? I honestly don't know; I'm on the fence. He certainly has pretty much made India invincible at home and a few topics back, i said if he improved away and can get his average below 30 at the very least, he's right on track. His away average is 29.99 but that's thanks in large part to a pathetic wi team.

Murali and Warne (like Ashwin)both had two away countries they were bad in so maybe I'm being to hard on Ashwin....
 

Coronis

International Coach
Having just glanced at his stats, Ashwin is certainly a great. But atg ie in the same league as Murali, Warne and O'Reilly? I honestly don't know; I'm on the fence. He certainly has pretty much made India invincible at home and a few topics back, i said if he improved away and can get his average below 30 at the very least, he's right on track. His away average is 29.99 but that's thanks in large part to a pathetic wi team.

Murali and Warne (like Ashwin)both had two away countries they were bad in so maybe I'm being to hard on Ashwin....
If you only consider those 3 spinners as ATGs then sure, he’s not. Mighty insulting to other spinners tho imo.
 

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
If you only consider those 3 spinners as ATGs then sure, he’s not. Mighty insulting to other spinners tho imo.
ATG is a very select category so if there are around 10 to 12 pacers like that there would be far less spinners. And Ashwin ain't one of them.
 

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Having just glanced at his stats, Ashwin is certainly a great. But atg ie in the same league as Murali, Warne and O'Reilly? I honestly don't know; I'm on the fence. He certainly has pretty much made India invincible at home and a few topics back, i said if he improved away and can get his average below 30 at the very least, he's right on track. His away average is 29.99 but that's thanks in large part to a pathetic wi team.

Murali and Warne (like Ashwin)both had two away countries they were bad in so maybe I'm being to hard on Ashwin....
Ashwin improvement away is pretty ordinary if you compare it to Warne and Murali.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Ah yes the bias card. Whereas on the other hand certain posters call me Indian and bash me for my Indian bias. More knowledge posters here acknowledge that I am not biased even if they rigorously disagree with my takes. I am equal opportunity in who I critique.

I only keeping posting as a response when others challenge my point. Y'know, kinda what you are supposed to do on this thread.

Exhibit A.
 

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
This is brainless posting, please break this bad habit. So many people seem to be able to make a post without using their brains, and it's embarrassing to see.
His point is true though now unless they play in Australia and even then Jadeja may edge him out. Ashwin is limited to pilfering from WI et al.
 

Adorable Asshole

International Regular
No because there is a bit of overlap with ATGs like Imran, Sobers and Hadlee who can qualify as ATG in single discipline and overall.
You are grasping at straws. He is below Imran, Hadlee, Sobers, Pollock, Miller, Davidson, Kallis. He is in the same league as Kapil, Faulkner, Benaud, Shakid but I doubt you rate them as ATG.
 

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