*Official* India in West indies 2023

[SillyCowCorner1]

WI have been minnows for a long time. But now, they are truly approaching associate level.

Even Prithvi Shaw got a debut ton vs WI. Ravi Ashwin has 4 tons... Smith averages 150 against them. A number of batsmen have padded their stats playing windies in recent years. So we shouldn't get carried away by individual performances vs WI.


It's shocking that we are halfway through this test already, but no one is pinning this thread. Tells you how irrelevant WI have become to cricket fans (on this forum and probably in general).

To be honest, it’s a G.S Kohli thread…

Whenever England comes over here, we always kick their a$$es though.

 

[centurymaker]

WI only seem to perform at an acceptable level when they play with a great deal of passion and thesedays ONLY England manage to invoke that passion in them. Otherwise they normally seem to have the attitude that they cbf.

 

[G. S. Kohli]

Last 5 year Jaiswal hits 49 century but his 143 not out on Debut was something



India 312/2 at Close

Virat 36 not out , Rohit 103, Gill 6.

Lead of 162*



Also Jaiswal/ Rohit partnership of 229 beat previous 1st wicket by jafar / Shewag vs WI in WI





100 on Debut for india

L Amarnath118 vs Eng
RH Shodhan110- vs pak
AG Kripal Singh100* vs nz
AA Baig112 Nz
Hanumant Singh105 vs eng
GR Viswanath137 vs Aus
S Amarnath124 vs NZ
M Azharuddin110 vs Eng
PK Amre103 vs eng
Ganguly131 vs Eng
V Sehwag105 vs SA
SK Raina120 vs SL
Dhawan187 vs Aus
RG Sharma177 vs WI
PP Shaw134 vs WI
SS Iyer105 vs NZ
YBK Jaiswal143* vs WI

 

[G. S. Kohli]

I do not think any indian player ever Batted 350* ball on (Jaiswal) Debut

World record hold by Len Hutton 847 ball for his 364 runs innings

🫀wow

 

[G. S. Kohli]

Most Test runs for India

15921 - Sachin Tendulkar

13265 - Rahul Dravid

10122 - Sunil Gavaskar

8781 - VVS Laxman

8504 - Virat Kohli

*Dravid and Sehwag have 13288 and 8586 Test runs respectively, including their scores in the one-off ICC XI vs Australia Test in 2005



Both India openers scoring hundreds in an away Test (same inns)

Vijay Merchant & Mushtaq Ali vs ENG, Old Trafford, 1936

Sunil Gavaskar & Krishnamachari Srikkanth vs AUS, Sydney, 1985-86

Virender Sehwag & Rahul Dravid vs PAK, Lahore, 2006

Wasim Jaffer & Dinesh Karthik vs BAN, Mirpur, 2007

Murali Vijay & Shikhar Dhawan vs BAN, Fatullah, 2015

Yashasvi Jaiswal & Rohit Sharma vs WI, Roseau, 2023

 

[Shri]

Man, this is dire. Need a lot more Bazball around the world to save test cricket if this is the alternative.

eng will play ind away next year. this is going to be hilarious

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

eng will play ind away next year. this is going to be hilarious

These English dudes are so pompous...as soon as they encounter foreign conditions they start to complain about the pitch. Such cry babies.

 

[Saket1209]

I don't think you can judge performance of a team with one match. Wi probably plays their worst against India, I don't know why. But you can't consider them associates in tests. They defeated Zim in Zim, Bangladesh in Bangladesh which even Aus and Ind found difficult. They had a competitive series against Eng. in Eng. in 2017 and 2020. At home they drawn the series against a formidable Pak side and won against Eng. and Bangladesh. They are not minnows in test cricket. They are better than BAN, AFG,ZIM,IRELAND and are on par with SL. And why are you judging them with series in Aus. Even greats team struggles in Aus and they were good with the bat in the first test there. SL, Pak , NZ,ENG all struggles in Aus and wi gives better competition in Eng. than most of the lower rank team like SL and Pak.

 

[Saket1209]

And they have a better w/l ratio in this decade then the previous two decades. Their worst was in 2000s. So basically they are improving in tests but very slowly.

 

[WICFan]

This pitch doesn't help the West Indies chances, the pace attack is decent and the pitch has nullified it, a lot has also been said about the batting order and how poor it is.

Probably none of us would have Reifer there, Blackwood's position is under scrutiny and Warrican shouldn't be in the squad, but it is what it is.

Tests are the West Indies best format, and they would need to be o their best day and hope an opposition like India has a brain fade for it to be really competitive.

Tests being their best format is also a stark reality of just how far they have fallen in the past few years in the white-ball formats.

 

[GotSpin]

I havent seen this test, and I daresay Im not rushing to turn it on, but the Windies have a real problem with spin dont they. Ashwin just runs through them

 

[cnerd123]

@Aritro did you manage to find this thread

 

[Molehill]

And they have a better w/l ratio in this decade then the previous two decades. Their worst was in 2000s. So basically they are improving in tests but very slowly.

I find it more bizarre that they would offer up a pitch that India would happily prepare for themselves. It's not just that, it's almost unwatchable for the neutral even if the scores were closer. How is this ever going to attract more people to come and watch?

 

[Xix2565]

I find it more bizarre that they would offer up a pitch that India would happily prepare for themselves. It's not just that, it's almost unwatchable for the neutral even if the scores were closer. How is this ever going to attract more people to come and watch?

Poor teams not having good infrastructure and resources to make the most of their conditions is as old as Test cricket. And the game still lives.

 

[G. S. Kohli]

If england. Beaten in Ashes i doubt Ecb keep Mac ( Bazz) their coach in india. Bazball will be backfire in india.

India vs Eng in india 5 test matches now instead 3.

 

[Molehill]

If england. Beaten in Ashes i doubt Ecb keep Mac ( Bazz) their coach in india. Bazball will be backfire in india.

India vs Eng in india 5 test matches now instead 3.

England's record in India is largely diabolical, don't see why trying a different strategy shouldn't be considered. Baz isn't going anywhere.

 

[Beamer]

R.e the pitch Dominica has always been good for spin bowling, it's just that this one is particularly insipid and slow alongside the spin.

In fairness the island was completely devastated by a hurricane not long ago and it's pretty miraculous they can even host a test.

 

[halba]

West Indies are truly finished in this sport IMHO. Tests are next after failure to qualify ODI world cup.

 

[Beamer]

West Indies are truly finished in this sport IMHO. Tests are next after failure to qualify ODI world cup.

That's a cheery thought, thank you for sharing!

 

[Silver Silva]

We dont need to remind the West Indies supporters on every thread that their team is going through a difficult phase.