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*Official* Third Test (Headingley, Leeds) 6–10 July

Daemon

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No. He isn't rare. He averaging around 11 with the bat and 45 with the ball this ashes so far.
The batting’s on him but not the bowling - been used weirdly and on flat wickets.

Taken some really good catches.

Overall had a very poor series for sure. For all the talk he has some catching up to do with premier all rounders like CdG and Thakur.
 

SteveNZ

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If Green is carrying any sort of injury he shouldn't be risked at all. He's about the rarest of commodities in cricket. No point risking turning in him into a medium paced plodder long term by playing him here if he's remotely sore. Rest him so he's still bowling 140 plus in two years, not back a MMarsh/ Stokes/ late career Watto pace levels.

MMarsh has an annoying (for them) habit of owning the Poms anyway.
Why is Green rare, honest question? The pace thing?
 

Burgey

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Why is Green rare, honest question? The pace thing?
Yeah. Players who can bowl 140 plus and bat in the top six aren't a dime a dozen. The last guy we had who could do it was early Watto, and he was so injury prone he ended up being essentially a top order batsman who was a medium paced part timer by the middle of his career. Even MMarsh who's hardly played tests has had a ton of issues which have kept him out and away from bowling.

Player management is a lot more advanced now than it was back in the Watto days, so if they have the capacity to rest him rather than run with the old ways of playing through niggles and having them develop into serious injuries which limit output long term, they absolutely should do it.

The sort of player Green has the potential of being is rare gold for Australia, even more so in conditions where they'd want to play two spinners in Asia.
 

Son Of Coco

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No. He isn't rare. He averaging around 11 with the bat and 45 with the ball this ashes so far. Ideal stats is atleast 25 with the bat and 35 with the ball , the wickets have been very flat and he's thrown his wickets away
He's not had a great series, but he has been fine before this. We're pretty lucky you're not a selector.
 

Son Of Coco

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I'm really looking forward to seeing Chris Woakes do his little North Korean military march-style warm up before he bowls his first ball.
 

flibbertyjibber

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Why is Green rare, honest question? The pace thing?
Green is rare because you can count on one hand the blokes who could bowl high 80s and bat properly since the golden era in the 70s/80s and Australia have never really had an all rounder for over 50 years.

His ceiling is high, they are probably doing the right thing with managing his workload given they will win the series now.
 

Burgey

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I'm really looking forward to seeing Chris Woakes do his little North Korean military march-style warm up before he bowls his first ball.
Woakes is the worst and rarest of all human subspecies - the likable English sportsman. He's dangerous. People like that can lead you to soften your stance and show mercy.

Do not fall for it.
 

Nintendo

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No. He isn't rare. He averaging around 11 with the bat and 45 with the ball this ashes so far. Ideal stats is atleast 25 with the bat and 35 with the ball , the wickets have been very flat and he's thrown his wickets away
Around 11=21? FFS mate that's grim even by your standards.
 

Qlder

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Have to love that Eng persist with a 36 test opener averaging 28.35 and now replace a batsman with a #7 Ali who averages 15.81 in his last 20 Tests
 

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