Made a **** ton of runs against the windies last summer and did fine vs SA when they toured. He didn't have a standout india tour, but he was our second leading run scorer and averaged 45. Think he stayed #1 for so long more cause of the guys around him, honestly. Smith had a horror series in india, head averaged 10 when we toured SL+PAK and missed a few tests hits in india, kane has barely played in the last few years, root has a stretch of low scores when SA toured eng, then when eng went to pak and the first test in NZ vs NZ, pant got injured and usman didn't play tests between 2019 and 2022 so he was really low down the rankings when he started making runs.I honestly don't get how Marnus was so high. He didn't really do anything in India any he didn't do really anything last week either.
I get that the principle is to always take the more aggressive approach. But I don’t understand how they’ve conceptualised giving away wickets in a tight game as aggressive. It’s taking your foot off the opponent’s throat.Yeah but I don't just think their new brand is something you can easily tinker around the edges with.
I would watch "Ben Stokes fightin round the world"He's a Cantab so loves to win, and a ranga so loves to fight.
you picked up on that, well donerubbish post
You know what I mean. Yes the declaration was proved to be wrong but that alone did not lose the game. England missed chances, you know that and when you miss so many , in a game so tight, you usually losepresumably in this scenario England take all their catches but australia still drop theirs? I just want to make sure we’re on the same page here.
No one thinks it's funny. The issue is that chances do get missed but you can't always control that. Sometimes edges go straight to first slip, and other times they split the keeper/slip perfectly. What you can totally control is when to declare, and Stokes got it horribly wrong. It wasn't even with hindsight, we all knew it at the time. You don't give away Root's wicket for free unless you have 550 on the board.You know what I mean. Yes the declaration was proved to be wrong but that alone did not lose the game. England missed chances, you know that and when you miss so many , in a game so tight, you usually lose
i don’t know why so many think that’s funny or wrong but there you go. It happens and we move on
i know people are taking the Micky but remember there are games still to come.
well played Australia you got over the line. Let’s see what happen next
there you go all, laugh your heads off, but the above is reality
It’s all fair points and believe me, I agree with everyone one who thought it was wrongNo one thinks it's funny. The issue is that chances do get missed but you can't always control that. Sometimes edges go straight to first slip, and other times they split the keeper/slip perfectly. What you can totally control is when to declare, and Stokes got it horribly wrong. It wasn't even with hindsight, we all knew it at the time. You don't give away Root's wicket for free unless you have 550 on the board.
Next time the powerball maxes out can you tell me what numbers you think will win? Wanna know what to avoid when I buy my tickets.No one thinks it's funny. The issue is that chances do get missed but you can't always control that. Sometimes edges go straight to first slip, and other times they split the keeper/slip perfectly. What you can totally control is when to declare, and Stokes got it horribly wrong. It wasn't even with hindsight, we all knew it at the time. You don't give away Root's wicket for free unless you have 550 on the board.
If they had done that they wouldn't have had to bat as long in the second innings. You know that all else being equal they would have gotten a massive first innings lead in that case right?I wonder if England had not declared and batted on, the four overs to close, then batted on until lunch the following day and even into an hour or so of the next afternoon and come day 5 , the Aussies had time only for the draw, whether anyone would be now moaning on about Stokes not declaring early enough ?
id put money on they would be
No one’s laughing their heads off. The banter between the fans has been good with hardly any gloating or whinging. But really your point about dropped chances is too one sided. Both teams made mistakes which most likely cancelled each other out.You know what I mean. Yes the declaration was proved to be wrong but that alone did not lose the game. England missed chances, you know that and when you miss so many , in a game so tight, you usually lose
i don’t know why so many think that’s funny or wrong but there you go. It happens and we move on
i know people are taking the Micky but remember there are games still to come.
well played Australia you got over the line. Let’s see what happen next
there you go all, laugh your heads off, but the above is reality
Would you say all this if England had won ?No one’s laughing their heads off. The banter between the fans has been good with hardly any gloating or whinging. But really your point about dropped chances is too one sided. Both teams but made mistakes which most likely cancelled each other out.
Neither would it have mattered if England made twice the mistakes. It just means you would have played twice as badly and deserved to lose. Just like a saying a batsman got himself out with a bad shot and saying I could’ve got a ton otherwise. No one will have much sympathy.
The mistake England made that really cost them was the declaration. England gave up runs when it was easiest to bat so we didn’t have to chase them when it was hardest to bat.
No need for the smart Alec intellectually dishonestIf they had done that they wouldn't have had to bat as long in the second innings. You know that all else being equal they would have gotten a massive first innings lead in that case right?
In fact they almost certainly have more time to bowl Australia out because they can go absolutely bonkers in the 3rd innings with zero regard for their wicket at all. If they start out with a first innings lead of, say, 150, then Stokes would quite happily tell his batsmen that they have a session to put on 250 and go for their lives. In that case the 30 plus overs they save in the second innings compensates more than enough for the time they spent batting in the first.
Also this consistent line of posting you've made with the bolded is intellectually dishonest. It's not that hard to be consistent about these things if you aren't completely a slave to outcomes and can analyse things honestly according to the information available at the time. Just as the fact that there's been a result doesn't change my view that the pitch was ****house, nor would have a different result changed the vast majority of people's views here that the declaration sucked. Sometimes you just get lucky, sometimes other factors outweigh the error.
As for you my lad, the saffers have zero to gloat aboutHmm looks like England's bulldog spirit has been replaced by a noisy hyperactive chihuahua who can't stop ****ting on the carpet