*Official* First Test (Edgbaston, Birmingham) 16–20 June

[CartyDurham]

Outstanding.

On fighting , has warners fist recovered after hitting Roots jaw? Appears his grip has long gone due to the hardness of root by the looks of it

 

[CartyDurham]

Honestly kinda surprised England didn't just forfeit their 2nd innings.

Don’t be silly

 

[CartyDurham]

Ashes81, meet Baz and Ben. Baz and Ben, Ashes81.

Outside an ashes do you watch much of Englands Tests ?

 

[CartyDurham]

Foakes to open next test.

We need therey over here. He would love the Aussies on this thread

God knows what the rat mustard would be like

 

[Burgey]

On fighting , has warners fist recovered after hitting Roots jaw? Appears his grip has long gone due to the hardness of root by the looks of it

History and subsequent ECB inquiries into Yorkshire have proven Warner's prescience. The at-best racist-adjacent Joe Root still has questions to answer.

Good on Ollie Robinson too. Thank you on behalf of all Australia for abusing the most self-effacing player on either side yesterday and in the process seemingly lighting a match under Pat Cummins.

 

[FBU]

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He keeps saying no when asked.

Given how little Stokes has been able to bowl it wouldn't surprise me if they went with four quicks + Root.

I think Stokes will be able to bowl 10 overs a day if needed.

Next Test at Lords will Wood be the 4th bowler with Root to bowl spin. If Wood has played at Edgbaston he would have gone for 50/60 runs not 150 like Ali.

Surely Ali won't be able to bowl with his raw finger. Maybe another spinner will be chosen.

 

[social]

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I think Stokes will be able to bowl 10 overs a day if needed.

Next Test at Lords will Wood be the 4th bowler with Root to bowl spin. If Wood has played at Edgbaston he would have gone for 50/60 runs not 150 like Ali.

Surely Ali won't be able to bowl with his raw finger. Maybe another spinner will be chosen.

Stokes has bowled 24 overs in his last 6 tests

His knee has left him a virtual part timer

 

[Xix2565]

...We've literally just seen perfect evidence of this. But yes, nonsense, of course.

Also I didn't say there was no seam movement, but Test pitches on the whole are much flatter than they used to be.

1 Test is not proof of anything either way lol.

Mate have you actually been watching this test.

The ball has done sweet **** all off the seam all match. Yes that's to do with the pitch but also the overhead conditions.

The overhead conditions change and suddenly the ball starts seaming.

Now I can't explain it, I know it doesn't make much sense but I've been watching cricket in England since the 1970s and take it from me, it often happens.

The ball not seaming is down to the pitch being flat, not your magical clouds making it green. Stop being moronic about basic facts.

 

[duffer]

Lollin' hard at all the casuals here being surprised that Robinson is a bit of a ****. Stupid casuals

 

[Daemon]

This is an awesome game. Whatever England do tomorrow they’ll do it quickly. Even if they bat well they’ll definitely declare and give Aus more than a sniff. Only more rain could spoil this now.

 

[ataraxia]

This is definitely where Bazball has kicked in, at this point. After a top-order collapse, score about 250 runs at 7RPO and completely destroy the Australian will to live, as they limp in the fourth innings to about 220 at best.

 

[Burgey]

Or get rolled for 120 with seven blokes caught on the fence then have an extra net session tomorrow while Aus go and celebrate the win by having a game of golf.

 

[Kirkut]

That short last session with dark grey skies and the red ball seaming around was as quintessentially English as Harry Potter.

 

[Anthony Clayden]

Bazball challenges...batting quickly means less time for your bowlers to rest, especially over a 5 test series with close matches and aging bowling squad. If Stokes can only bowl part time level overs and Moeen can't bowl at all, that leaves 3 bowlers in this next innings wiht Root and maybe Brooks, and two of those bowlers are great bowlers but they are aging. Especially bouncing the lower order out, that would have taken a lot out of Broad's body. Pity the Australian tail couldn't have ducked more and elongated the bouncer spell. Australia has 3 part timers who are near Root's level as a bowler (FC record Labu W 80 Av 48, Head W 61 Av 62 Smith W 72 W 51 to Root W75 A48)

Wood comes in for England next test, but I'm not sure if both Anderson and Broad can sustain long spells on flat wickets, without a genuine spinner tieing down an end for a lot of overs. If they both need a rest is it Wood and Woakes in for England?

 

[Spikey]

I'm probably late to the discourse but Australian cricket has a weird opposition to sendoffs imo. I don't think it's fair to label Ponting and co as doing similar behaviour to Robinson's sendoff, when Watson did that sendoff to Gayle he got rebuked for that, however those players stood in the slips and basically did the same thing all day (hence why I think it's a weird opposition)

 

[straw man]

Or get rolled for 120 with seven blokes caught on the fence then have an extra net session tomorrow while Aus go and celebrate the win by having a game of golf.

Unrealistic - there's no way Australia would beat a team led by Brendon McCullum... to the golf course in the above scenario.

Extra net lol

 

[halba]

I'm probably late to the discourse but Australian cricket has a weird opposition to sendoffs imo. I don't think it's fair to label Ponting and co as doing similar behaviour to Robinson's sendoff, when Watson did that sendoff to Gayle he got rebuked for that, however those players stood in the slips and basically did the same thing all day (hence why I think it's a weird opposition)

Ponting is not a bowler. Just a captain fielder. The bowler is often the one that is front and centre on TV

Robinsons send off was unacceptable IMHO, but there's no clear law or fine against it.

 

[Prince EWS]

I don't really care about send offs. I'm actually more put off by batsmen celebrating tons in a way that makes them seem angry.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I'm probably late to the discourse but Australian cricket has a weird opposition to sendoffs imo. I don't think it's fair to label Ponting and co as doing similar behaviour to Robinson's sendoff, when Watson did that sendoff to Gayle he got rebuked for that, however those players stood in the slips and basically did the same thing all day (hence why I think it's a weird opposition)

Watson was an absolute **** with his wicket celebrations. Just because he's Australian doesn't and make it ok

 

[Spikey]

Watson was an absolute **** with his wicket celebrations. Just because he's Australian doesn't and make it ok

And he got plenty of stick for it. Australian cricket in all it's parts is, generally, being pretty consistent in giving Robinson stick for this too.

I'm with PEWS I don't think it's a big deal