*Official* Australia in India 2023

[CricAddict]

Whether you believe it or not , I want this series to end as 3-1

Aus shouldn’t go home extremely demotivated. And want Aus to atleast draw in Eng . This Bazball should end imo .

Think of it this way. If they get blanked vs India in current series, they will be more motivated to win all tests against England in the Ashes.

 

[CricAddict]

Both Good batters and Good bowlers are equally important . Good bowlers win you games . However if you don’t have runs on board , even good bowlers will find it difficult to win you games .

India's bowlers are good batters too anyways. So, just think of the middle order as the lower order and lower order as the middle order.

 

[Sunil1z]

Think of it this way. If they get blanked vs India in current series, they will be more motivated to win all tests against England in the Ashes.

If they get blanked , they will lose confidence . Confidence is very important in sports .

And moreover I want atleast 2 of the 3 players to be dropped from Indian side . This won’t happen if we win 4-0

 

[Xix2565]

Both Good batters and Good bowlers are equally important . Good bowlers win you games . However if you don’t have runs on board , even good bowlers will find it difficult to win you games .

Wrong way round. Bowlers are the only ones who can win you games consistently, since you need 20 wickets to win (at a cheaper rate than the opposition bowlers). Smith for all his runs vs India won't change the situation more than the likes of Lyon/Murphy/Kuhnemann stepping up and bowling on par with Ashwin/Jadeja/Axar.

 

[Sunil1z]

India's bowlers are good batters too anyways. So, just think of the middle order as the lower order and lower order as the middle order.

These bowler won’t bail us out in overseas conditions . I am not talking about winning at home only . To win overseas , top order will have to score runs .

 

[Senile Sentry]

Half of it has flown home.

That's what he said, they'll come back for the ODI series

 

[Sunil1z]

Wrong way round. Bowlers are the only ones who can win you games consistently, since you need 20 wickets to win (at a cheaper rate than the opposition bowlers). Smith for all his runs vs India won't change the situation more than the likes of Lyon/Murphy/Kuhnemann stepping up and bowling on par with Ashwin/Jadeja/Axar.

What cost Aus 2nd Test at Delhi ?
Their batting or Their bowling ?

 

[Xix2565]

What cost Aus 2nd Test at Delhi ?
Their batting or Their bowling ?

Bowling, they weren't good and controlled enough to get Axar and Ashwin out, then they were batting in the 3rd innings vs Ashwin/Jadeja which is already hard enough for everyone since teams have barely passed 200 in the last few years. Good bowlers means that they can exert more control when bowling and so force more errors that can be punished.

 

[Burgey]

What cost Aus 2nd Test at Delhi ?
Their batting or Their bowling ?

Both.

the back up spinners were always a big worry on this tour but to lose 9 wickets in like 80 minutes or whatever it was is inexcusable on that pitch. I don’t even think India bowled that well second dig, especially Jadeja, but they didn’t have to. They were good, but I think they bowled better in the first test tbh.

That performance by Aus in the second innings was as bad as I’ve seen given the conditions were by no means awful. The pitch is obviously different to what a lot of our guys are used to, but the premeditation on the sweep by everyone was looney tunes stuff. Fmd number 11 out reverse sweeping with a test on the line after watching every other **** out to a sweep shot? Just horrendous stuff. Another 60-80 odd and they likely win, or at least make it very tough for india batting last.

 

[Sunil1z]

Bowling, they weren't good and controlled enough to get Axar and Ashwin out, then they were batting in the 3rd innings vs Ashwin/Jadeja which is already hard enough for everyone since teams have barely passed 200 in the last few years. Good bowlers means that they can exert more control when bowling and so force more errors that can be punished.

They got India all out for nearly 260 and you are still blaming bowlers .

It is 80% batsmen fault and 20% bowlers .

 

[Senile Sentry]

Both.

the back up spinners were always a big worry on this tour but to lose 9 wickets in like 80 minutes or whatever it was is inexcusable on that pitch. I don’t even think India bowled that well second dig, especially Jadeja, but they didn’t have to. They were good, but I think they bowled better in the first test tbh.

That performance by Aus in the second innings was as bad as I’ve seen given the conditions were by no means awful. The pitch is obviously different to what a lot of our guys are used to, but the premeditation on the sweep by everyone was looney tunes stuff. Fmd number 11 out reverse sweeping with a test on the line after watching every other **** out to a sweep shot? Just horrendous stuff. Another 60-80 odd and they likely win, or at least make it very tough for india batting last.

Indian bowlers were tripe on Day 2 evening, but they bowled well on the morning of Day 3.

Yes the dismissals look bad when seen in highlights and suggest harakiri but ignores the control and setup that made the batsmen go that route.

Except Carey who is **** and doesn't have any other shot.

 

[morgieb]

Sillycowcorner seems like a chill dude? Can't believe it's the same guy.

Nah this clown was before your time, mercifully.

 

[Spark]

Smith’s back has not been at its most limber since his Big Bash League exploits. And after a hip problem during the home Tests, he has struggled to stay low with the ball in the slips. More such chances are sure to arrive on Indore's surface.

From Brettig's piece. That certainly explains a lot, but why on earth is he still at slip then? He's missing chances and harming his batting by putting stress on his back.

 

[Sunil1z]

Indian bowlers were tripe on Day 2 evening, but they bowled well on the morning of Day 3.

Yes the dismissals look bad when seen in highlights and suggest harakiri but ignores the control and setup that made the batsmen go that route.

Except Carey who is **** and doesn't have any other shot.

Have to slightly disagree there . Smith dismissal triggered the collapse . And that shot was completely not needed .

Rest of the batsmen had made up their mind to sweep irrespective of the type of ball .

 

[Spark]

Have to slightly disagree there . Smith dismissal triggered the collapse . And that shot was completely not needed .

Rest of the batsmen had made up their mind to sweep irrespective of the type of ball .

His own words speak for themselves:

"I’ve played 94 Test matches, and I don’t think there’s been too many times I’ve walked off the field and I’ve gone, ‘what the hell am I doing?’” Smith said. “I was pretty angry. There hasn’t been too many times in my career where I’ve actually come off and just been bedazzled by what I’ve done.
“It wasn’t my finest moment. Certainly something to learn from, I’m still learning as well. It wasn’t the way I wanted to play, particularly when I had the field set for all of us actually, they had the field out. We probably just rushed things a little bit and it’s something we’ll talk about.”

 

[Burgey]

Indian bowlers were tripe on Day 2 evening, but they bowled well on the morning of Day 3.

Yes the dismissals look bad when seen in highlights and suggest harakiri but ignores the control and setup that made the batsmen go that route.

Except Carey who is **** and doesn't have any other shot.

I’m not talking about highlights. I watched the whole thing. Which tbf didn’t take long.

I said they bowled well, but not 9/50 well or whatever it was.

 

[Sunil1z]

I’m not talking about highlights. I watched the whole thing. Which tbf didn’t take long.

I said they bowled well, but not 9/50 well or whatever it was.

After Smith dismissal, they gave up mentally .

 

[Burgey]

After Smith dismissal, they gave up mentally .

Yeah exactly. Like if India were all over them like the first test, they could barely score a run and got rolled for the same score by epic spells, then fair enough. But that was a capitulation

 

[Xix2565]

They got India all out for nearly 260 and you are still blaming bowlers .

It is 80% batsmen fault and 20% bowlers .

They let India get to 262 from 139-7 ffs. How is that a serviceable performance by the bowlers? A capitulation with the ball just like what happened later with the bat.

 

[OverratedSanity]

They let India get to 262 from 139-7 ffs. How is that a serviceable performance by the bowlers? A capitulation with the ball just like what happened later with the bat.

Ashwin and axar actually had to bat well to do it because Australia's bowling was quite decent .

Our spinners didn't even have to bowl anywhere near their best in the second innings to get those wickets.