Kapil vs Kohli

[BazBall21]

Kapil had 2 peaks with the bowling alone, early in his career.

Peak 1 : 27 tests 118 wickets @ 23
Peak 2: 19 tests 80 wickets @ 23

Not to mention that he contributed with the bat as well during this period. So not sure Kohli had a better peak. May be he came close in the 2016-2019 period. Also, it needs to be said that Kapil had nothing going for him as far as bowling support is concerned. Kohli too had a few series where he carried the batting on his shoulders, but nothing close to the duration that Kapil had to, in bowling.

Kapil is clearly ahead as the greater cricketer, though Kohli can come close if he can shed his frustrating decline and reverse his fortunes in the twilight years of his career.

Yeah unsupportive home conditions, inadequate bowling support and a poorly managed workload hindered Kapil.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

ODIs
Kapil Dev > Kohli
Kind of Akram vs ABDV comparison

Tests
Kapil Dev >> Kohli
Equivalent of Botham vs Younis Khan comparison

 

[karan_fromthestands]

Also he's not better than Kohli anywhere except NZ but who cares about that. Kohli is the fourth best Indian batsman away. Almost no touring batsman has been that good in SA let alone Asian batsmen (except Tendulkar).

Feel different about Tendulkar. Every now and then we get excited about youngsters who look like they are in the same league and then as time passes the gap simply increases. The longevity and consistency of Tendulkar is just unmatched. I remember people talking about Kohli being better than Sachin just a couple of years ago and now here we are.

 

[cnerd123]

Kohli doesn't get into India's ATG XI because Sachin is already a lock at 4 and I refuse to pick a player for a position they barely ever played in. Especially if they're going up against an ATG attack.

 

[honestbharani]

Kohli doesn't get into India's ATG XI because Sachin is already a lock at 4 and I refuse to pick a player for a position they barely ever played in. Especially if they're going up against an ATG attack.

Kuch bhi.......


Translation - What @ankitj said in another post.

 

[_00_deathscar]

Kohli doesn't get into India's ATG XI because Sachin is already a lock at 4 and I refuse to pick a player for a position they barely ever played in. Especially if they're going up against an ATG attack.

He’d be playing 5, not opening. This is dumb.

 

[cnerd123]

He’d be playing 5, not opening. This is dumb.

your face is dumb

Kohli has 28 innings with an average of only 40.80 at number 5.

Many cricketers don't average as much in positions outside of their preferred one, even if the whole middle order seems the same to us armchair casuals. It's an actual factor. Can't just write it off IMO.

 

[trundler]

It's an actual factor.

It's not though.

 

[OverratedSanity]

your face is dumb

Kohli has 28 innings with an average of only 40.80 at number 5.

Many cricketers don't average as much in positions outside of their preferred one, even if the whole middle order seems the same to us armchair casuals. It's an actual factor. Can't just write it off IMO.

There is no difference in skills required batting 4 or 5. It can be written off because it's stupid.

 

[Daemon]

Can't wait for cnerd to double down on yet another poor argument

 

[cnerd123]

Can't wait for cnerd to double down on yet another poor argument

bro dropping down two spots in wheelie bin **** turned you from a virtual tail-ender to nearly averaging 100. don't lie to me that batting position doesn't matter

it's fine if you all wanna be wrong about this, but I'd rather pick players for an ATG XI based on what they've actually done in the role/position I'm selecting them for.

 

[Daemon]

Going from opening to 8 is very different from 4 to 5

 

[cnerd123]

Going from opening to 8 is very different from 4 to 5

they used to let you open?

 

[Daemon]

they used to let you open?

Yeah, similar to your role, just see off the new ball.

I did it quite well tbh, used to see the new ball all the way from the bowlers hands onto my stumps.

 

[morgieb]

There is no difference in skills required batting 4 or 5. It can be written off because it's stupid.

Yeah I mean I'd consider 3 a specialist position, and even 6 can be considered a specialist position, but 9 times out of 10 the 5 is a worse version of the 4.

 

[h_hurricane]

Tendulkar in fact averages better at 5 than 4. I will bat Kohli at 4 and Tendulkar at 5, to settle this debate.

 

[Daemon]

Tendulkar in fact averages better at 5 than 4. I will bat Kohli at 4 and Tendulkar at 5, to settle this debate.

Good luck talking Tendulkar into that

 

[Gob]

Good luck talking Tendulkar into that

He'll pretend not to hear it

 

[Xix2565]

He'll pretend not to hear it

Which is why he'll get dropped by Kohli.

 

[Godard]

ODIs
Kapil Dev > Kohli
Kind of Akram vs ABDV comparison

Tests
Kapil Dev >> Kohli
Equivalent of Botham vs Younis Khan comparison

Kohli is clearly a better ODI player. Top 3/4 ODI batsmen ever, and has a genuine chance to reach Viv