*Official* 2022 New Zealand Tour of England, Ireland, Scotland & Netherlands

[Raz0r6ack]

Highest average of the 2020s

 

[Uppercut]

I mean, this is true, but there's a reason you pick six specialist batsmen, not four.

Yeah that happens in almost every series.

I just think that when you set this England team chases of 280 and 300 you don't expect to lose both tests. Jamieson going down injured mid-test was a major blow, maybe we're not cutting them enough slack for that.

 

[kevinw]

Daz Mitchell for prime minister?

Be glad you live in a country with a good leader.

 

[StephenZA]

I mean, this is true, but there's a reason you pick six specialist batsmen, not four.

But you would still expect that those other 4 would be half decent at some stage on the tour... even if they don't dominate.

 

[Flem274*]

Yeah that happens in almost every series.

I just think that when you set this England team chases of 280 and 300 you don't expect to lose both tests. Jamieson going down injured mid-test was a major blow, maybe we're not cutting them enough slack for that.

You're cutting too much slack imo.

England might still have won because they've played really well but the first ports of call for NZ should be the top 4, dozy bowling plans and bizarre selection rather than bad luck or anything.

 

[nzfan]

England bowling without a slip to Southee, that's got to be a win in itself

 

[Flem274*]

But you would still expect that those other 4 would be half decent at some stage on the tour... even if they don't dominate.

Yeah exactly. You don't build series wins on the lower middle order bailing you out. I'm sure there's exceptions but guys bat top 4 for a reason. They're usually the best batsmen in the team.

 

[nzfan]

Looks like Baz planned for everyone but for Southee and Boult batting

 

[ashley bach]

Be glad you live in a country with a good leader.

That's a fair call for sure, but as usual with politics that's very debatable.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Stokes remained calm under pressure with that catch.

 

[straw man]

Damn. Won't get the 500 for the series.

Good catch.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Noooooooooo!
Huge moment in the test.

 

[nzfan]

That's a top class catch, made it look really easy

Top knock by Mitchell

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Damn. Won't get the 500 for the series.

Good catch.

2nd innings?

 

[Meridio]

Ah ffs. Again, feels harsh to criticise someone who's batted this well...but two balls before lunch? Really?

 

[nzfan]

If we get 350+ it won't look too bad. Good fight back by the lads.

 

[straw man]

2nd innings?

nah Latham will score a double hundred

 

[nzfan]

2nd innings?

Bowl England out twice for less than 350

 

[Fuller Pilch]

If we get 350+ it won't look too bad. Good fight back by the lads.

From 123/5 it would be pretty decent.

 

[straw man]

You're cutting too much slack imo.

England might still have won because they've played really well but the first ports of call for NZ should be the top 4, dozy bowling plans and bizarre selection rather than bad luck or anything.

The clear exception to the 'but NZ still made a good score even if the top order failed' is the first innings of the first test where we were bowled out for 132. Only kept the match alive due to bowling plus England imploding.

That was the exception though - in general the bowling and catching has been the problem more than the batting - that and the general malaise affecting the side.