cricketsavant
U19 12th Man
I never said the poster said it that. I'm highlighting the opinions that have been floating around for years just because India have done slightly better than they used to. You can read my other posts for context.
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India Doom and Gloom Thread
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cricketsavant
U19 12th Man
Wait, who do you think I am? And what do you think winning in Australia signifies?
cricketsavant
U19 12th Man
This is what we call a strawman. Creating another argument which is nothing to do with the argument I have raised. Try again
cricketsavant
U19 12th Man
Since some of these guys love stats so much, let's look at the most recent Australia series. Apparently the fast bowling is so great the Aussies cowered against the raw pace of Thakur
Yet the 2 highest wicket takers were Aussies, in fact, not a single Indian fast bowler with more than one game even averaged less than 25...I'm being nice, because most of them averaged almost 30, compared to less than 20 by Hazlewood and 20 by Cummins.
As has always been the case, India won because of exceptional batting on pitches deigned for big scores (7 scores of 300+ in 16 innings, how often does that happen in modern tests?). Heck, one test has 1200+ runs scored and ended in a draw including a declaration HAHA
Yet these guys won't shut up about the bowling. Because what, you finally got a couple bowlers who can bowl at 140
I hate to be mean but stop being delusional. India has/had very good crop of players but they can only improve if their skill set is viewed in reality, not bollywood fantasy. That's my piece on that.
Yet the 2 highest wicket takers were Aussies, in fact, not a single Indian fast bowler with more than one game even averaged less than 25...I'm being nice, because most of them averaged almost 30, compared to less than 20 by Hazlewood and 20 by Cummins.
As has always been the case, India won because of exceptional batting on pitches deigned for big scores (7 scores of 300+ in 16 innings, how often does that happen in modern tests?). Heck, one test has 1200+ runs scored and ended in a draw including a declaration HAHA
Yet these guys won't shut up about the bowling. Because what, you finally got a couple bowlers who can bowl at 140
I hate to be mean but stop being delusional. India has/had very good crop of players but they can only improve if their skill set is viewed in reality, not bollywood fantasy. That's my piece on that.
Wtf is this idiocy? Did you watch those matches or not where only Sydney and Brisbane were relatively good for batting? How can you say that Australia outbowled India when India took 36 wickets to their 32 after matching them in better bowling conditions in Adelaide/Melbourne? Almost like you forgot how badly Starc/Lyon bowled and the fact that Green was barely an option back then. Meanwhile Jadeja/Ashwin/Washi more than held their own weight with the pacers.Since some of these guys love stats so much, let's look at the most recent Australia series. Apparently the fast bowling is so great the Aussies cowered against the raw pace of Thakur
Yet the 2 highest wicket takers were Aussies, in fact, not a single Indian fast bowler with more than one game even averaged less than 25...I'm being nice, because most of them averaged almost 30, compared to less than 20 by Hazlewood and 20 by Cummins.
As has always been the case, India won because of exceptional batting on pitches deigned for big scores (7 scores of 300+ in 16 innings, how often does that happen in modern tests?). Heck, one test has 1200+ runs scored and ended in a draw including a declaration HAHA
Yet these guys won't shut up about the bowling. Because what, you finally got a couple bowlers who can bowl at 140
I hate to be mean but stop being delusional. India has/had very good crop of players but they can only improve if their skill set is viewed in reality, not bollywood fantasy. That's my piece on that.
As for Thakur he took 7 for 155 at Brisbane and outbowled everyone there, and made a match saving 67 in the process. The sheer disrespect.
Nah you can just **** off with this baseless fantasy analysis.
h_hurricane
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cricketsavant is the Rubel Hossain of this forum. The standards are such that it can only be improved from then. Yet somehow manages to plunge into further lows.
Daemon
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This is like Ashwin's Instagram tribute to Kohli
“We must leave a place at such an altitude that the future can only take it higher from there on”
Think he didn’t quite realise what he’s saying is he’s left it at a low so the only way is up lmao. It's also not a real quote from someone, he just put quotation marks around a sentence he made up
Also searched the likes and it doesn’t seem like any of the current team has liked his post.
Hmmm… very interesting.
OverratedSanity
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We already have a doom and gloom thread but this time starting one actually feels warranted.
This team is a ****ing mess. Ganguly drama is entertaining atleast I guess.
This team is a ****ing mess. Ganguly drama is entertaining atleast I guess.
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Sourav Ganguly wanted to send show-cause notice to Virat Kohli over explosive press conference
BCCI secretary Jay Shah intervened and stopped board president Sourav Ganguly from issuing a show-cause notice to Virat Kohli over his explosive comments in a press conference in the lead up to India's tour of South Africa.
Lol
cricketsavant
U19 12th Man
When did the team become a mess?
Decent enough showing in the CWC 2019, exceptional batting strike rate in the last year or ODI cricket, is it a rot that started just now or has it been built over years of over confidence and under development?
honestbharani
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@Spark @Prince EWS or any other@Mods
Please merge this with the real one.
And yes, it turns out the real Panauti is Ganguly all along. @sunilz can suck it.
Please merge this with the real one.
And yes, it turns out the real Panauti is Ganguly all along. @sunilz can suck it.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Shardul Thakur is mediocre
Got a real competitive edge to him and will have good days out, but ultimately don't think he's cut out for any format in the long-term
Got a real competitive edge to him and will have good days out, but ultimately don't think he's cut out for any format in the long-term
Apex Predator
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Time to dump trundlers & oldies for good. Time to rebuild has come & Dravid was brought to do that.. He hasn't done that & paid the price. Now hopefully BCCI uses danda like Dhoni did after 2012.
Boobie hopefully has played his final ODI.. And is a ready made scapegoat now. KL Rahul is done & dusted as a captain. Ashwin is also in the bin.
Just don't play more than 1 trundler in a ODI side ever again.
Boobie hopefully has played his final ODI.. And is a ready made scapegoat now. KL Rahul is done & dusted as a captain. Ashwin is also in the bin.
Just don't play more than 1 trundler in a ODI side ever again.
Shri
Mr. Glass
he's the one ray of sunshine in this gloom get out
Starfighter
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@Shri what's this?
India Doom and Gloom Thread
Ankit did not say anything about Indian quicks being "greatest of all time" lol. Where did this come from ? This is a bowling attack to savor though. It is India's best ever, something which isn't really arguable. They can be improved certainly. I never said the poster said it that. I'm...
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Shri
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good job little buddy you found it
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The Doom and Gloom mainly stems from poor selection and talent management really. We have the depth of talent to have different Test, ODI and T20I squads without needing to play anyone in all 3 formats. JAM ODIs and T20Is should be used to test our bench strength, but instead we're burning out guys like Bumrah/Ashwin and running out known quantities like Dhawan. There isn't any foresight here.
We're also going to keep struggling in overseas conditions because the BCCI won't let our next gen talent sign up for overseas tournaments. They view Indian cricketers as 'assets', and believe that allowing them to play domestic/franchise cricket in non BCCI-leagues is therefore allowing those other cricket boards to profit off of them, which is such a dumb line of thinking. In their desperation to not let other cricket boards make any money they're sacrificing the development, and thus the long-term health, of our International team.
We definitely need more U19/A Team cricket happening, but this seems low on the priority list right now. Or Women's team is barely getting any cricket as well. BCCI is just obsessed with fulfilling the men's International tours and the IPL for commercial reasons.
The rot starts at the top, and unless Ganguly can get **** in order we're going to continue to punch below our weight for years to come.
We're also going to keep struggling in overseas conditions because the BCCI won't let our next gen talent sign up for overseas tournaments. They view Indian cricketers as 'assets', and believe that allowing them to play domestic/franchise cricket in non BCCI-leagues is therefore allowing those other cricket boards to profit off of them, which is such a dumb line of thinking. In their desperation to not let other cricket boards make any money they're sacrificing the development, and thus the long-term health, of our International team.
We definitely need more U19/A Team cricket happening, but this seems low on the priority list right now. Or Women's team is barely getting any cricket as well. BCCI is just obsessed with fulfilling the men's International tours and the IPL for commercial reasons.
The rot starts at the top, and unless Ganguly can get **** in order we're going to continue to punch below our weight for years to come.
Arachnodouche
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With so much unrest among Indian ranks, Aus must be chomping at the bit to get theirs back. They might even have had better than 50% odds if the series were to be played right now, in March or so, as it was in the past.