***Official*** India in South Africa 2021-22

[WpGuy]

Dropping Maharaj is just idiotic.

Not dropping and why? our tail and middle order is so frail if there is zero spin we need a strong middle to lower.

 

[StephenZA]

Not dropping and why? our tail and middle order is so frail if there is zero spin we need a strong middle to lower.

Wanting to replace the experienced spinner with an extra batsmen/bowler when already playing a quality all rounder option in Mulder and have a keeper batting in the top 6, is creating a solution to a problem that does not exist. The availability of a decent spinner to balance an attack far outweighs any apparent advantage having a 5th seam bowler or batsmen at number 8 may bring.

 

[Dendarii]

It's also worth noting that Maharaj has the second-best first-class figures at the Wanderers, achieved earlier this year. Obviously, it was against a domestic batting line up who aren't going to be as good at playing spin as the Indian batsmen, and the test match pitch may be less conducive to spin than that one was, but it's still an indication that he's not automatically going to be completely ineffective.

 

[trundler]

Iyer and Pant are good at playing spin but the others aren't really

 

[Xix2565]

Iyer and Pant are good at playing spin but the others aren't really

They're good enough, hell did you miss Mayank last match vs NZ and Ajaz?

 

[_00_deathscar]

It's also worth noting that Maharaj has the second-best first-class figures at the Wanderers, achieved earlier this year. Obviously, it was against a domestic batting line up who aren't going to be as good at playing spin as the Indian batsmen, and the test match pitch may be less conducive to spin than that one was, but it's still an indication that he's not automatically going to be completely ineffective.

You haven't watched India much lately have you?

 

[Daemon]

I don't think it's as much to do with being great players of spin as it is being very comfortable in home conditions. Spinners have embarrassed us overseas plenty of times.

 

[WpGuy]

Wanting to replace the experienced spinner with an extra batsmen/bowler when already playing a quality all rounder option in Mulder and have a keeper batting in the top 6, is creating a solution to a problem that does not exist. The availability of a decent spinner to balance an attack far outweighs any apparent advantage having a 5th seam bowler or batsmen at number 8 may bring.

Mulder at 7 averages 15, maharaj similiar bavuma 32 so we have like 4 batsmen who can scores runs basically drop mulder than for a batsmen at 7 and play 3 seams and maharaj than. our batting is wonky our bowling is fine.

 

[WpGuy]

Dropping Maharaj is just idiotic.

Will he get a 5ever or 10er in sa wickets on the highveldt? and or make 50 plus runs in an innings him and mulder together at 7 and 8 atm besides mulder bringing a wicket taking option give us no wickets or batting this point in time on the highveldt mulder needs runs asap.

 

[StephenZA]

Which shows you know nothing about Mulder. He is inexperienced and young but a quality batsmen. He is a batting allrounder not a bowling allrounder and is most definitely a future top 6 SA batsmen. I would rather have him in the team than just about any other batsmen in the country, bar van Tonder, long term. Yes we know the SA batting is weak, but destroying the balance of the team and the bowling attack to try fit an extra batsmen is pointless and shows a desperation that not even close to required.

And yes Maharaj is more than capable of taking 5 wickets in the highveld. But that is not and will not be his job. The 3 excellent seamers we have will likely take the majority of the wickets. With Maharaj adding control and support with a few extra wickets thrown in. Along with Mulder hopefully bringing some good seaming spells.

 

[Stefan9]

There is no reason to play 5 seamers ever. Mulder in the team means the 4 seamers are taken care off.
A Test is 5 days, a spinner should always be part of the team.
Dropping him cause you are worried about the batting is absurd . Drop the batsmen who aren't doing the job.

 

[Arachnodouche]

Prefer keeping Thakur hungry for a regular spot and then unleashing the angry young man inside when India most needs him.

Also think Maharaj is quality and can pose questions to the suspect middle order. That is if he gets a chance to bowl at them.

 

[Teja.]

I think Shardul can do very well here.

 

[WpGuy]

Which shows you know nothing about Mulder. He is inexperienced and young but a quality batsmen. He is a batting allrounder not a bowling allrounder and is most definitely a future top 6 SA batsmen. I would rather have him in the team than just about any other batsmen in the country, bar van Tonder, long term. Yes we know the SA batting is weak, but destroying the balance of the team and the bowling attack to try fit an extra batsmen is pointless and shows a desperation that not even close to required.

And yes Maharaj is more than capable of taking 5 wickets in the highveld. But that is not and will not be his job. The 3 excellent seamers we have will likely take the majority of the wickets. With Maharaj adding control and support with a few extra wickets thrown in. Along with Mulder hopefully bringing some good seaming spells.

Wrong I know he is a batting allrounder I have followed him at lower levels and averages 45 batting 5, well done, facts are his stats at international level is of a bowling allrounder, I hope he comes right but you just want to pick all the young talent and let them sink Australia pick guys at age 30 plus hardly anyone in their early 20s I see why you not the coach of sa Van tonder is good like hamza and kyle v and petersen none have proved they int quality yet and van tonder is having an average year so far, you can't just say he will definetly make it like at breekze and van jaarsveld and that guy indian titans realeased now who was age 17 seen as a future star at natal originally and failed.

 

[WpGuy]

I have more faith in olivier,rabada,nortjie taking 10-20wickets by themselves than our batsmen making over 300 runs,

 

[centurymaker]

Olivier is a threat but he is definitely no Southee or Anderson who are genuine swing bowlers. Olivier is almost like Jamieson who is even more dangerous.
Maharaj linde aren't the kind of spinners who can trouble Indians. I doubt except Centurion Maharaj will play anywhere else.

How tall is Olivier?

Judging by the videos, Olivier seems to be around 6'3-6'4 ; I wouldn't say he is like Kyle Jamieson who happens to be 6'8

I am glad Philander has retired. He was South Africa's most devastating/effective bowler last time.

 

[Apex Predator]

How tall is Olivier?

Judging by the videos, Olivier seems to be around 6'3-6'4 ; I wouldn't say he is like Kyle Jamieson who happens to be 6'8

I am glad Philander has retired. He was South Africa's most devastating/effective bowler last time.

He is a tad quicker than Jamieson & he does get some extra lift from the surface. Watch few of his spells vs Pakistan in 2019.. He literally blew them away single handedly.

 

[WpGuy]

He is a tad quicker than Jamieson & he does get some extra lift from the surface. Watch few of his spells vs Pakistan in 2019.. He literally blew them away single handedly.

I be more worried about Oliver on form than rabada and nortjie if he displays the 2019 **** form we have 3 fast destroyers and than mulder can swing it and tie an end up, again horses for courses id pick 7 batsmen and have mulder at 8, makram has shown in odis and t20s he can bowl if needed.

 

[Dendarii]

makram has shown in odis and t20s he can bowl if needed.

In those formats, not necessarily in tests. He has four wickets in first-class cricket at an average of 92.75 and has never picked up more than one wicket in an innings. That doesn't fill me with much confidence as to his prospects as a test bowler.

 

[Stefan9]

Markram can contain a bit hence he is ok for a few overs in white ball. He is in no way a good option for tests.
Keshav has to play.