Top 30 batsmen of the modern era (1990s -Current)

[Flem274*]

Well this exploded.

I think HB raises a fair point - comparing the retired to the current is dangerous. Braver though. Gotta big up a player before they do a ponting and average 2 for 5 years etc

 

[Athlai]

Ponting was such a gun until he wasnt

 

[Burgey]

Root above Williamson is just wrong.

Jayawardene above both of them is worse.

 

[harsh.ag]

Hope Kane smashes all comers in the next 3 years tbh. It's his best shot. Underachieved till now.

 

[Burgey]

Carrying his bat in England and then immediately going back to open after India followed on is some premium ****.

The famous series where tendulkar (deliberately left in lower case btw, like his character) wouldn't move from number four despite all the injuries and unavailability India had. Dravid though - yep, straight up to open because he thought of the team instead of just himself. WAFG he was.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Jayawardene above both of them is worse.

ahem

Both are better than Jayawardene too

 

[Burgey]

Sorry, did someone say something?

 

[ankitj]

Kane's 2 lowest averages in a country are 21 in SA and 26 in SL; Mahela's are 27 in NZ and 27 in SA. Is there really that much between them? Mahela has had a complete career to so that goes in his favour. By end of his career, Kane can certainly inch ahead. At this point it's hardly shocking that he is just below.

 

[Gob]

Also is it me or was Rahul Dravid insanely good looking?

Probably batting with a hobbit for most of his career made him look a lot taller than he actually was too

 

[ankitj]

Also is it me or was Rahul Dravid insanely good looking?

He was very popular among women, so yeah.

 

[Gob]

He was very popular among women, so yeah.

Yet refrained from playing away from home I take it. good man

 

[TheJediBrah]

Also is it me or was Rahul Dravid insanely good looking?

heard this before and never gets less weird. Bloke is a 4/10 on a good day

 

[Gob]

As for Kanye Williamson, needs to up his away record for sure

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Whose are those stats?

 

[Gob]

Whose are those stats?

Davey Warner's. I swapped them and thought no one would notice

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

This is why I only trust Daemon's spreadsheets.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Apart from NZ, those stats do look pretty similar.

 

[Flem274*]

Kane's 2 lowest averages in a country are 21 in SA and 26 in SL; Mahela's are 27 in NZ and 27 in SA. Is there really that much between them? Mahela has had a complete career to so that goes in his favour. By end of his career, Kane can certainly inch ahead. At this point it's hardly shocking that he is just below.

the difference is samplesizelol. Kanes got about 30-40 away tests, but per country its miniscule.

kohli, smith and root fit roughly 8 years of williamsons english sample size into just one series.

the disparity in opportunity is a bit of a joke. india and australia should beat nz handily outside nz, but no one else has that excuse to avoid hosting nz.

 

[Daemon]

the difference is samplesizelol. Kanes got about 30-40 away tests, but per country its miniscule.

kohli, smith and root fit roughly 8 years of williamsons english sample size into just one series.

the disparity in opportunity is a bit of a joke. india and australia should beat nz handily outside nz, but no one else has that excuse to avoid hosting nz.

Well yeah it's unfair and all, but it is what it is and we can't assume that if he was given more tests he'd have a better record and therefore is better than Dravid.

You have to wait for it to actually happen.

 

[srbhkshk]

He has had 12 innings in England, 13 in India and 7 each in SA & SL. #samplesizelol doesn't work just one way - it's as likely to give you an absurdly high average as it is for an absurdly low one. There's a very clear separation in Kane's numbers in places that are typically harder to bat versus those which are typically easier to bat.

And as others have mentioned - even if it indeed is #samplesizelol - how does that make him better than Dravid?