*Official* New Zealand in England 2021

[grecian]

If England suspend Robinson and bring Craig Overton that'll be a joke I think Overton was suspended for being racist on the field from memory.

England is a vibrant society, all races generally live in harmony but county cricket of late has had many racist instances. I think Yorkshire had one too couple of three years ago. Was it Adam Gale? These seem to happen frequently in UK cricket. There's no room for this and in particularly sports. Can you imagine a player in NZ being told go back to your country or some **** racist slur used against a player in domestic cricket? That's unimaginable.

He was punished for that though wasn't he? So doesn't seem remotely applicable. He also denies it, have my doubts with 2 witnesses, but I guess it's not been proven.

 

[nzfan]

I hate this world sometimes, honestly. Don't repost that sort of garbage.

Why the **** is that racist? Because it's imitating the way Indian social media posters write? And because their skin is black? **** off.

I can't see that being racist. Aussie u19 players including one from sub continent heritage was suspended in an u19 world cup tourney only like last year for similar social media posts.

I don't think that's racist but can be termed offensive or mocking. Don't think cricketers should go around mocking anyone on social media or if you think you're funny with these things do that on a stage as a stand up comedy and people will take it rightly. If you do then be ready to get told off. I don't think English is a first language in India and it's commendable they aren't shy of admiring players from outside their country. I'd rather the sportsmen respect that and have some gratitude for the kind of following they get from sub continent. Just lack of respect in my opinion. Besides these are seasoned campaigners, they should know better.

 

[nzfan]

He was punished for that though wasn't he? So doesn't seem remotely applicable.

I don't know the details but one was punished way more than the other. Remember Gillespie the Yorkshire coach saying that. Still if these things happen so frequently in country cricket there must be something wrong with the system. It needs to be addressed and players should be educated. There's been some more reports recently of some sort of systematic racism experienced by Holder and co. Unlucky for Robinson, though he may have changed all these recent issues matter and ECB will have been forced to take a strong stand. If they don't then some section won't be happy.

 

[SteveNZ]

Cancel culture isn't a thing, a one match ban for a guy who was old enough to vote and fight for his country when making these tweets, whilst being contracted to a County, is about right I'd have thought.

it's not being nailed to the cross it's a one match ban FFS, honestly as always the people reacting to "cancel culture", and things pertaining to it, are as always the most histrionic.

Ha, because there's no theatrics about the people who lead the charge with 'cancel culture' are there? As I say, I've never used that word, I dislike it...sits along with virtue signaling as a 21st century word I despise. But I'm not sure how you can say it isn't a thing? Of course it's a bloody thing.

Look, if he was on county books and he made that tweet now, then yeah ban him. But how far are we going to go back with these things?

Tell me, what's the outcome that is superior from Robinson being banned for a game as opposed to fined, making an apology, doing some sort of community work etc? How is that more advantageous to all concerned?

 

[SteveNZ]

I can't see that being racist. Aussie u19 players including one from sub continent heritage was suspended in an u19 world cup tourney only like last year for similar social media posts.

I don't think that's racist but can be termed offensive or mocking. Don't think cricketers should go around mocking anyone on social media or if you think you're funny with these things do that on a stage as a stand up comedy and people will take it rightly. If you do then be ready to get told off. I don't think English is a first language in India and it's commendable they aren't shy of admiring players from outside their country. I'd rather the sportsmen respect that and have some gratitude for the kind of following they get from sub continent. Just lack of respect in my opinion. Besides these are seasoned campaigners, they should know better.

For the record, I don't think it's something they should do either. It's biting the hand that feeds really, given India has made very rich men of all three of those people, and we all know that the obsession of the fans is what creates that ability to access that wealth. But **** off that it's racist, and that website can **** off too - trying to stir something out of nothing.

 

[Flem274*]

i don't think humans were ever meant to be this accessible. the internet is amazing for a lot of reasons, but i don't think very many grasp just how permanent and forever what you do and say on it is.

 

[Chubb]

He was punished for that though wasn't he? So doesn't seem remotely applicable. He also denies it, have my doubts with 2 witnesses, but I guess it's not been proven.

I posted about this a few days ago. You and I both know what young people from Devon can be like. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he said it. But yes he was punished which makes it different to Robinson.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Cancel culture isn't a thing, a one match ban for a guy who was old enough to vote and fight for his country when making these tweets

The punishment is stupid, but yeah it's also dumb how people are defending the guy as being "just a dumb teenager" like he was 13 or something. Guy was at least 18 even 20 in some of the other later tweets. He was an adult.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

i don't think humans were ever meant to be this accessible. the internet is amazing for a lot of reasons, but i don't think very many grasp just how permanent and forever what you do and say on it is.

I still can't believe people use their real names on the Internet, it boggles my mind.

 

[nzfan]

For the record, I don't think it's something they should do either. It's biting the hand that feeds really, given India has made very rich men of all three of those people, and we all know that the obsession of the fans is what creates that ability to access that wealth. But **** off that it's racist, and that website can **** off too - trying to stir something out of nothing.

The writers dig these... PC world sometimes. My own experience I've tried to speak in Madagascar King Julien's accent to one of my best Indian mate. At that point in time didn't see it being offensive at all. I think I should revisit and ask him if it was. There was nothing racist about it. I love the dude, he's an awesome chap. If I was a professional cricketer and put that on social media boy I would have been tore apart. I guess none of those guys would be slightest of racist but not educated in the etiquette of posting on social media. Best thing to do, keep off social media or hand over your social media account to your agent like Kane does. They will make sure it's PC and build a great image for you.

 

[SteveNZ]

I still can't believe people use their real names on the Internet, it boggles my mind.

I don't understand this either. I live in a small(ish) community where people post the most outrageously dumb stuff under their own names, the most puerile offensive stuff - then I see these people walking past me in the supermarket. I'd be beyond embarrassed, which is why I've ended up leaving those community message boards which are just filth.

The punishment is stupid, but yeah it's also dumb how people are defending the guy as being "just a dumb teenager" like he was 13 or something. Guy was at least 18 even 20 in some of the other later tweets. He was an adult.

No, that's quite right. He's accountable for them. I just don't see the benefit of the outcome of him being banned for a game, how that's going to produce anything more than a fine, the humiliation he's already copped etc.

 

[grecian]

Ha, because there's no theatrics about the people who lead the charge with 'cancel culture' are there? As I say, I've never used that word, I dislike it...sits along with virtue signaling as a 21st century word I despise. But I'm not sure how you can say it isn't a thing? Of course it's a bloody thing.

Look, if he was on county books and he made that tweet now, then yeah ban him. But how far are we going to go back with these things?

Tell me, what's the outcome that is superior from Robinson being banned for a game as opposed to fined, making an apology, doing some sort of community work etc? How is that more advantageous to all concerned?

No it's not a thing, being punished for past behaviour has always been a thing, that's what has happened, again your theatrics seem worse than mine, and this post seems pretty conclusive of that.

As I've said before, not sure I'd have even banned him for one game, but again it's not being "put on a cross" or whatever hyperbole you were dribbling about.

Happy to go back to any utterly racist, ***ist, offensive comments that were made when someone was old enough to vote, and signed by a pro cricket club, as I said, but you seem to have ignored or gainsayed.

 

[thundaboult]

https://www.crictracker.com/eoin-morgan-jos-buttler-and-brendon-mccullum-under-fire-for-mocking-indian-english-in-past/

LOL

lmao these are hilarious, and extremely accurate

although i would suggest something like a "viRaT Koli iz besT" or "noT bETTr thAn SaccHiN" "DHoni Iz gOD" cuz those are bangers

the article writer needs a sense of humor ffs

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Oh I get it they have poor spelling and grammar of their non-native language

 

[grecian]

I posted about this a few days ago. You and I both know what young people from Devon can be like. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he said it. But yes he was punished which makes it different to Robinson.

Can I just say in Exeter we're pretty cosmopolitan, but yeah North Devon, well that is kinda a different matter....

 

[SteveNZ]

No it's not a thing, being punished for past behaviour has always been a thing, that's what has happened, again your theatrics seem worse than mine, and this post seems pretty conclusive of that.

As I've said before, not sure I'd have even banned him for one game, but again it's not being "put on a cross" or whatever hyperbole you were dribbling about.

Happy to go back to any utterly racist, ***ist, offensive comments that were made when someone was old enough to vote, and signed by a pro cricket club, as I said, but you seem to have ignored or gainsayed.

Don't play the man, play the ball.

What is to be gained out of a ban that a fine and other contributions wouldn't achieve?

 

[Mike5181]

I don't mind him being held accountable or even the ban tbh. The way they've handled it borders on bullying though and I wouldn't take any 'player wellbeing' talk seriously from them in the future.

 

[Flem274*]

I still can't believe people use their real names on the Internet, it boggles my mind.

it happened all the time on cw when i first joined. i still regret letting richard know my real first name. fortunately being richard he decided the spelling was wrong so posted it all over but with his own spelling. i was legally a child at the time too.

 

[Flem274*]

I don't mind him being held accountable or even the ban tbh. The way they've handled it borders on bullying though and I wouldn't take any 'player wellbeing' talk seriously from them in the future.

true. definitely a strong whiff of 'throw a man under the bus so we look good' rather than actual justice here. if it's james anderson on the eve of the ashes there's no way they ban him lol.

 

[grecian]

Don't play the man, play the ball.

What is to be gained out of a ban that a fine and other contributions wouldn't achieve?

because a fine and other contributions mean next to nothing, again it's hopefully just a one match ban, giving his performance I'm pretty sure he'll be back, no reason for gnashing of teeth.